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wingdarkness · 2006-03-02, 21:30

Well I've been wanting to get this off my chest, better late than never I suppose...I gave Shuffle a 4...on further reveiw maybe a 5 because i don't usually watch a full series that's a 4....However i did give up on Shuffle at about ep 13...it was just bad to me, the main character and the plot was so boring and the biggest thing of all is that the show isn't funny (Only Itsuki and Mayumi eps ever made me laff)...Then a few people like evil-samurai and some others kept telling me about the "Kaede arc" and how impactful that whole thing is (Not that it was good, but it was worth watching to understand the series)...So I watched the next 11 eps over a 3 day period just to get to that part and after it was all said and done i wished i hadn't...But the one thing I have to admit about Shuffle it's one of those series that really illicits a strong reaction from you...I'm about to be pretty analytical so stick with me...

Do you understand how much of my basic human knowledge I had to suppress to get thru this thing?? First is Asa's sickness....Rin and Kaede call her Asa-sempai which denotes they have known her a while and have established a relationship...So in the whole time they've known each other she has never passed out or fallen down or has shown any sick conditions to them...Once her illness is revealed she's dying every other episode?? Just didn't make sense...I was hoping she died for the tragic ending that would have satisfied me a bit, but after her beyond crazy reason for not wanting to use her magic I just tried to get thru the rest of the series without trying to think to much...

As for Kaede I understand why people sympathize with her...Eventhough she did some evil $hit when she was younger it still seemed to me Rin treated her bad...One of the best and only moments in the series I really enjoyed and connected with was the scene where Rin goes on an on about how Asa is suffering and Kaede (almost like a person who has lost there resolve to live) says something along the lines of "I understand I haven't suffered enough..." I was like damn she must feel like nothing inside...then she cracks and has some really good dark scenes with her in the shower then her most desperate attempt at Rin's love...And like many others the way they made her and Asa become friends again was a joke at best...Destroyed all the tension and Kaede's character development aswell...

Now with all that said i have to play Devil's advocate a bit aswell...Personally I can't blame Rin all that much for not wanting to be with her (not the oblivious way he treated her though)...I mean if a girl I lived with as a child had tried to kill me multiple times I don't know if i could ever completley get over that (despite the circumstances)...I also don't think it should be a given that the guy should always get with the girl who does everything for them, it creates an atmosphere of dependantcy...And furthermore a relationship like that would inevitable become stale...You have to have passion for the girl you want to be with IMO...I hated Rin for alot of reasons, but not for not wanting to be with Kaede (Just the asinine way he dealt with the situation)...

Now everybody talks about Kaede getting jobbed, but what about Sia? Sia got the worst treatment...She was basically about to marry Rin...he was falling for her...She overhears Nerine's "out of the arse" story, tells him she'll work harder for his love...Next thing ya know she falls off the face of the earth (With no rhyme or reason)...They throw together a lame 1-parter explaining she's a skitzo and then she gracefully bows out and to boot tries to hook him up with Asa...Insanity?? Anyone??

And don't get me started on Asa...i don't dislike her at all, but c'mon she knew what she was doing...She made Sia and Nerine look like fools in front of Rin and she did it with the full knowledge of why they were trying to keep Primula's secret...Furthermore anyway you look at it she knew Kaede was in love with Rin yet she still pursued him (A good friend doing this vs. new girls changes everything)...She looked at Rin thru the window as he waited day after day for Kaede and she wanted that...Do i blame her for that? No that's how girls are, they don't care about friendships when they like the same guy (historical fact)...But lets not pretend there is no deciet involved....Your teaching your good friend how to cook and clean for the guy you like while knowing their feelings?? That's the definition of deciet...

As for Asa giving her permission to still love Rin, how pathetic is that, sheeesh...I guess this was the innovative harem script we we're hearing about :rollseyes:... Your giving the girl false-hope (I mean she's crazy for being the first girl on earth to immediatley become friends again with the girl who "stole" her man cause that never happens)...But it just crapped on her character evenmore...I just felt sorry for her fanbase...

And finally Rin cutting his wrist was the first thing he did ALL SERIES inwhich he used his own freewill...IMO he stands at the bottom-feeder of harem lead characters...He was really awful if you think about his whole development...He makes Taka from KGNE look like a smooth-a$$ pimp...I even enjoy Manaka from Ichigo 100% infinitley more than Rin...

Overall Shuffle had some great fanservice and what was so good about the fanservice (beside it being fanservice :P)...It took place in some of the most morbid and dark scenes in the series which really makes it somewhat unique in the harem genre, but other than that Shuffle fell flat in alot of areas IMO...One of the rare animes I've watched that i wished I hadn't completed...So why am i here discussing it you ask? Well Shuffle is one of those shows that really get under your skin if you don't like it...It really is a polorising anime...Other than Gundam Seed Destiny, no other anime I've watched in the last year has made me literally angry upon it finishing but Shuffle...I mean I was just upset for hours...It really can extract raw emotions from you (good and bad) and I guess I'll have to give it credit for that, but before ever watching it again i think I'd rather Shuffle a deck...

2006-03-02, 21:30	Link #85
wingdarkness Retweet Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA	Well I've been wanting to get this off my chest, better late than never I suppose...I gave Shuffle a 4...on further reveiw maybe a 5 because i don't usually watch a full series that's a 4....However i did give up on Shuffle at about ep 13...it was just bad to me, the main character and the plot was so boring and the biggest thing of all is that the show isn't funny (Only Itsuki and Mayumi eps ever made me laff)...Then a few people like evil-samurai and some others kept telling me about the "Kaede arc" and how impactful that whole thing is (Not that it was good, but it was worth watching to understand the series)...So I watched the next 11 eps over a 3 day period just to get to that part and after it was all said and done i wished i hadn't...But the one thing I have to admit about Shuffle it's one of those series that really illicits a strong reaction from you...I'm about to be pretty analytical so stick with me... *Do you understand how much of my basic human knowledge I had to suppress to get thru this thing??* First is Asa's sickness....Rin and Kaede call her Asa-sempai which denotes they have known her a while and have established a relationship...So in the whole time they've known each other she has never passed out or fallen down or has shown any sick conditions to them...Once her illness is revealed she's dying every other episode?? Just didn't make sense...I was hoping she died for the tragic ending that would have satisfied me a bit, but after her beyond crazy reason for not wanting to use her magic I just tried to get thru the rest of the series without trying to think to much... As for Kaede I understand why people sympathize with her...Eventhough she did some evil $hit when she was younger it still seemed to me Rin treated her bad...One of the best and only moments in the series I really enjoyed and connected with was the scene where Rin goes on an on about how Asa is suffering and Kaede (almost like a person who has lost there resolve to live) says something along the lines of "I understand I haven't suffered enough..." I was like damn she must feel like nothing inside...then she cracks and has some really good dark scenes with her in the shower then her most desperate attempt at Rin's love...And like many others the way they made her and Asa become friends again was a joke at best...Destroyed all the tension and Kaede's character development aswell... Now with all that said i have to play Devil's advocate a bit aswell...Personally I can't blame Rin all that much for not wanting to be with her (not the oblivious way he treated her though)...I mean if a girl I lived with as a child had tried to kill me multiple times I don't know if i could ever completley get over that (despite the circumstances)...I also don't think it should be a given that the guy should always get with the girl who does everything for them, it creates an atmosphere of dependantcy...And furthermore a relationship like that would inevitable become stale...You have to have passion for the girl you want to be with IMO...I hated Rin for alot of reasons, but not for not wanting to be with Kaede (Just the asinine way he dealt with the situation)... Now everybody talks about Kaede getting jobbed, but what about Sia? Sia got the worst treatment...She was basically about to marry Rin...he was falling for her...She overhears Nerine's "out of the arse" story, tells him she'll work harder for his love...Next thing ya know she falls off the face of the earth (With no rhyme or reason)...They throw together a lame 1-parter explaining she's a skitzo and then she gracefully bows out and to boot tries to hook him up with Asa...Insanity?? Anyone?? And don't get me started on Asa...i don't dislike her at all, but c'mon she knew what she was doing...She made Sia and Nerine look like fools in front of Rin and she did it with the full knowledge of why they were trying to keep Primula's secret...Furthermore anyway you look at it she knew Kaede was in love with Rin yet she still pursued him (A good friend doing this vs. new girls changes everything)...She looked at Rin thru the window as he waited day after day for Kaede and she wanted that...Do i blame her for that? No that's how girls are, they don't care about friendships when they like the same guy (historical fact)...But lets not pretend there is no deciet involved....Your teaching your good friend how to cook and clean for the guy you like while knowing their feelings?? That's the definition of deciet... As for Asa giving her permission to still love Rin, how pathetic is that, sheeesh...I guess this was the innovative harem script we we're hearing about :rollseyes:... Your giving the girl false-hope (I mean she's crazy for being the first girl on earth to immediatley become friends again with the girl who "stole" her man cause that never happens)...But it just crapped on her character evenmore...I just felt sorry for her fanbase... And finally Rin cutting his wrist was the first thing he did ALL SERIES inwhich he used his own freewill...IMO he stands at the bottom-feeder of harem lead characters...He was really awful if you think about his whole development...He makes Taka from KGNE look like a smooth-a$$ pimp...I even enjoy Manaka from Ichigo 100% infinitley more than Rin... Overall Shuffle had some great fanservice and what was so good about the fanservice (beside it being fanservice :P)...It took place in some of the most morbid and dark scenes in the series which really makes it somewhat unique in the harem genre, but other than that Shuffle fell flat in alot of areas IMO...One of the rare animes I've watched that i wished I hadn't completed...So why am i here discussing it you ask? Well Shuffle is one of those shows that really get under your skin if you don't like it...It really is a polorising anime...Other than Gundam Seed Destiny, no other anime I've watched in the last year has made me literally angry upon it finishing but Shuffle...I mean I was just upset for hours...It really can extract raw emotions from you (good and bad) and I guess I'll have to give it credit for that, but before ever watching it again i think I'd rather Shuffle a deck... __________________ Fly since ↔...