[Wanderer]

I think it's relevant to the fantasy/meta motive discussion, so here's the end of Our Confessions (translated/summerized by LyricalAura):

Originally Posted by LyricalAura

Spoiler for 4th Twilight:

Kanon meets up with Shannon and Piece-Beatrice at the chapel, and Shannon asks how it went. He says it was just sleeping, and it was easier than carrying fertilizer around. Beato thanks him for his hard work, and says his role on this game board is finished. Kanon says he'll see both of them again on the next board, and Piece-Beatrice makes him disappear.

Shannon and Piece-Beatrice go inside the chapel. After some searching, Shannon finds a small 20cm gap between the altar in the back and the stained glass window behind it. She ties one end of a cord to a small weight and dangles it in the gap. She ties the other end to a handgun. The weight is heavier than the gun, so the gun should fall into the gap when she lets go of it.

Piece-Beatrice says that it's going to be difficult to get the blood on Shannon's stake right. She smears the stake with a kind of paint that's used in movies. Shannon trades the gun for the stake. Both are pressed up against Shannon's forehead.

"Do you have any regrets?"
"...None. Everything I do is for you, Beatrice-sama."
"It's a shame... If someone had solved the epitaph... you wouldn't have to die either."
"There's no way anyone could solve such a difficult riddle. ...It was a hopeless bet from the very beginning."
"I made the bet in spite of that. ...A miracle that occurs in spite of such odds is worthy of being called magic."
"...In this human world filled with toxin, there are no magic spells or miracles. ...Beatrice-sama. You are the only witch... and the only one who can bring magic into this world."
"That's right. ...I am the Golden Witch, Beatrice. Sleep peacefully. When next you awaken, you will be in the Golden Land. Your beloved George will be there with you."
"...Thank you very much, Beatrice-sama..."

Piece-Beatrice pulls the trigger and Shannon slumps over. Piece-Beatrice lets go of the gun, and the weight pulls it into the gap behind the altar. She notes that it looks like the stake fell out of Shannon's forehead when she collapsed. She places an envelope containing the key to the parlor next to the body, and also adds a letter indicating that she stole Kanon's corpse for another part of the resurrection ritual, which ought to send the survivors running back to the parlor to check on his body.

"Now... That does it for the epitaph serial murders, riiiight? How is it, Battleeer? I hope you enjoy my mystery. Kukuku, haaahaahahahahaha!!!"

Beato says that since she went to the trouble of summoning Flauros, she'll go ahead and make Kanon's disappearance her fault. Something like: after Kanon died, his spirit was attacked by her and Piece-Beatrice, and after a useless struggle, Flauros swallowed him whole. With the serial murder finished, all that's left is to rewrite the story with a fantasy narrative pinning everything on the new demon.

Originally Posted by Renall

Need I want something, or can I not just be disappointed?

Disappointment implies expectations not met, does it not?

Originally Posted by goldendust

So the motive based on fantasy?

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but wasn't that a counter of Eva-Beatrice in EP3? That Eva-Beatrice plunged Kirie's motive into fantasy by saying that she as a witch controlled her since Kirie's motive for leaving was not to gather food.

That Battler needed to find a proof and make the correct deduction about Kirie's motive otherwise Eva-Beatrice as part of the witch side could still win due to upholding a part of the witch's illusion. The detective needs to also work out motive with clues, hints and analysis of character. In fact Will the detective has emphasized that point more than anyone.

Basically what you are saying that Nanjo's motive is pure fantasy. No different than if he were to be controlled by a witch.

I don't know, it just feels odd to base the motive on fantasy.

Yes, this is definitely an interesting exchange when considering fantasy motive.

There are a couple things I would like to mention about it, though. First: It was Eva-Beatrice, not Beatrice, who made motive a game issue. Beatrice had ample opportunities to post similar challenges to Battler, but never did. Second: I'm not saying that all motive is based on fantasy, just Yasu's motive for murder (and perhaps that of her accomplices in helping her). Kyrie's case in EP3 would likely be different.

To basically restate what jjblue1 has just recently suggested, you could say that Beatrice is ignoring the murder motive on purpose, specifically so that Battler could realize that there actually isn't one. In other words, the fact that Battler is directed to think about motive, and that Will places so much attention to motive is precisely because the reader is supposed to realize that the fictions lack a satisfying motive and that there is no "better" answer than "Nanjo was controlled by a witch". After all, Yasu/Hachijou unilaterally wrote Nanjo that way without the real Nanjo having any kind of say in the matter. And let's also not forget he's called a "piece": Pieces in games don't control themselves; they are controlled by the people playing the game.