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Old 2012-10-25, 17:37   Link #821
Kazu-kun
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Originally Posted by Solace View Post
Gen always trolls. Madoka was the title character, but the focus of the story was not really on her, so much as it was about her, until the end. Otherwise it was the other girls who drove the narrative. Homura for all of it, Mami for part, Kyouko for a bit and especially Sayaka for a good number of episodes.
Maybe you mean focus on screen-time, but if we talk the narrative, then the focus was always mainly on Madoka. At the start we don't know Homura's goals or motivations, so her actions are merely a plot device to drive Madoka's storyline. Homura's own story is told in just one episode, and it mostly serves to set the stage for Madoka's final decision and actions. Even Sayaka was more of a character than Homura, narratively speaking, since her goals and motivations were explored across various episodes and she even had a proper resolution, which Homura didn't. Even then though, Sayaka's storyline also plays as a device for Madoka, who is the main focus of the series.


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It is a good premise to explore in the movie, as a thematic element about her character. However I do not expect the story to have that as the only element
Not the only element but the main one. The epilogue of the series already set the stage for the kind of story, if you think about it. Homura's goal is to protect Madoka's world, so whether the Incubators find a loophole on the system or Madoka's wish fails for some other reason, it will become a direct obstacle against Homura's stated goal. Any issue threatening Madoka's world will automatically be an antagonist force against Homura.

That's your movie right there. All we need to know is the nature of the problem and how the other chanters fit in, but the core story is right there.



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Her wish defeats the immediate issues of Walpurgis and her own Witch from destroying everything, and it helps save the girls from the nasty fate of becoming Witches as well. However it still leaves the system, and all of the despair, and the most insidious element intact: Kyubey.
The point is that Madoka achieved what she decided to do. Dealing with the system and Kyubey wasn't her main concern. Besides, she knew nothing good would come out of trying to mess with that anyway.

This goes in line with what Urobuchi said about "hoping too much". When we wish for too much, when we want the cake and eat it too, someone else is inevitably going to suffer to compensate for that. This is what Urobuchi himself said he was getting at with the series. All the characters except Madoka hoped for more than they should, and that's why their hope backfired on them. Madoka on the other hand restrained herself. Yes, she might have been able to do a lot more, with the power she had, but that would have resulted in an even greater despair.

Madoka achived her goal because she restrained her hope and desires. And she did win, because that's the only way to win in Urobuchi's world.
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