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Old 2013-02-22, 05:01   Link #6803
TinyRedLeaf
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 49
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Originally Posted by Kudryavka View Post
Ok. I just hate getting fansubs from DVDs or BDs rips because they came from media you're supposed to buy. It's just like stealing and downloading a whole DVD/BD of a movie off of Bittorrent.
And what if the movie never makes it to a cinema near you? How are you going to view the movie first, to decide if you wish to buy a DVD/BD of it later?

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Originally Posted by Kudryavka View Post
But I thought that TV episodes would be okay (before any licenses) since they're shown for free, usually as advertisements to buy the series on BD later. In my opinion if you want the high quality from discs you should pay for it like the owners want you to.
No, TV viewing is never "free". You forget that you pay a TV licence fee. And that's before you even consider subscribed cable or satellite channels.

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Originally Posted by Kudryavka View Post
So let's say a series is only out on TV, which usually means there is no license. So, is it legal to upload and download those episodes that someone records from TV? Since the owners are putting it out for free on TV, internet fansubs would seem to only generate interest and not lose money. Fansub watchers would either buy the series later (owners get money), or just ignore and move on (owners get nothing b/c the fansub watcher did not like their advertisement, but every advertiser expects that some/most people who watch their ads won't commit to buying). It's not like DVD and BD ripped fansubs, in which case the owners do lose money because why buy the discs when you already have disc quality for free?
In principle, as long as you're making a copy and distributing the copy without permission or licence, you're doing something illegal. It makes no difference whether you ripped the content from TV programming or DVD/BDs.

There might be some ambiguity over whether simply making a copy is already considered an offence. The Laws of Anime was recently published on Anime News Network. I read the first part, but not the second. A clearer answer might be found there.
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