Thread: Licensed Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean
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Old 2012-12-08, 10:58   Link #2822
Xagzan
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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo View Post
The relationship between Renton and Eureka is a mix of both.
Eureka then was an incredibly inconsistent character. It may be that it's part of the plot since she is supposed to "change", but it was jarring nonetheless. She was a cold killer machine at first, then a strong willed Rei (I'll do everything that Holland tells me), then she goes in depression mode, then she turns deredere but she doesn't want to kill anyone anymore.
I wouldn't call that so much inconsistent as I would character development. (Although I might have described those changes a different way).

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But the worst part of Eureka seven were the last episodes, so many bad conceived twists and ass pulls, really rubbed me the wrong way. Holland somehow acquires a completely robotic... robot, suddenly without any previous mention. They throw in an ad-hoc justification as to why they were never used before (it's bad for your health!). Holland seems to be on verge on death at one point, but two days later he is perfectly all right, okay.
Huh? The Devilfish wasn't fully mechanical. It had an archetype. It didn't have a limiter, which, true, I don't remember having been mentioned before, but it's such a minor detail that I don't think it merited foreshadowing at all. Yeah, they said it was bad for the pilot's health was the reason. So what? They can't reveal any new bits of information towards the end of the show unless they've mentioned it before? It's not like it didn't make sense, or was in direct contradiction to some previous aspect of the show.

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Anemone change of heart was also way too sudden to my liking. Dominic believes he can stop her even if he's always been treated like shit by her until that point. But well, Anemone conveniently realizes she loves him by herself right at the most crucial moment. They are suddenly a happy couple ready for marriage.
It does seem a bit sudden. But there are some hints of her changing feelings scattered around beforehand, which I think are easier to pick up on a second watch.

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Then you get Dewey who somehow managed to fuse with a compac drive, even if he isn't a monk or anything and even if hundreds failed and died. How did he manage that? When did he do that? How come simply with that he can become a human switch to trigger armaggedon? How does that even work? And why did Bear know?
As for how he managed it, the show doesn't go into detail because it's not really the logistics of his plan that are important, it's the plan itself. You just have to do the imaginative work yourself, if you're that concerned about it. Norb got his compac from Sakuya; we know Dewey was doing mad scientist experiments to create girls like Sakuya and Eureka, so probably it was another crazy experiment that embedded the drive in his chest. Same with the trigger. Maybe it's a little confusing, but ultimately, it's just not that important in the face of the characters and the plot and everything else that's going on.

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But there's one thing that I agree with everyone else. The characters in AO are very weak, especially Fleur and Elena, who are supposed to be pretty important. If there's one thing that the original series had, were very interesting and powerful characters, and that is why in spite of everything that I said, I can say that I have in fact enjoyed Eureka Seven. I wish the story was a little more solid, but in the end it was an enjoyable show and I'm not really regretting to have watched it.
Glad you enjoyed it

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The two stories do not mash up well together, and not just because of certain canonical inconsistencies, but mainly because they have two completely different atmospheres.
It was apparent from the beginning the atmosphere was completely different. I tried to keep hope that as things developed this would change a bit, but it never did.
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