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Old 2011-01-05, 17:01   Link #23
Intranetusa
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Except that absolutely makes no sense and I'm staring to wonder if you guys watched the same show.
I really don't care if the show has 3 middle schoolers who were able to start 3 powerful organizations. However, the show made no sense when it portrayed these
3 characters as totally lacking organizational, leadership, common sense, etc qualities.

I don't mind the fictional portrayal of awesome middle schoolers - but they actually have to be awesome with talents and skills, not a bunch of inept brats who somehow formed their organizations out of sheer luck.

All 3 of them are terrible terrible leaders.


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Only thing you're right about is how she views herself, but you completely missed the point on why. Anri also didn't do anything wrong with asking Celty for help, the Yellow Scarves were already convinced that Slasher and Dollars were working together because in reality they just wanted a fight with the group that now biggest dog in town. All of this being a chain reaction of events manipulated by Izaya.
Uhh..no. She used her powers to manipulate some of the yellow scarf guys into leading her to the YS base. They told her the leader was Kiba, and she wanted to meet him. So what does she do when she actually gets there? She runs away...

What was the entire point of even going to the base then? And after that, she gets Celty to bail her our, pulls out her sword, and confuses the YS into starting the gang war.


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Anri never used Saika on anyone, but Haruna, you know who doing the slashing and causing havoc throughout the city? Anri in the end was one who stopped her saving the town in fact it was Celty who encourage to use her power for good, which why she's comforting Izaya who's the real menace to society.
Her power controls people against their and uses them as slaves. The sword has a mind of its own and wants to take over the world and enslave everyone. There is really no way to use it for good. Anri already has a self-righteous arrogant personality at the end when she tries to stab Izaya, so there's a huge danger that she will start using the possessed people as her personal army. (which is kinda what she did)

Anri and her devil sword is a far bigger menace to society than Izaya.

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You also ended up misunderstanding Mikado. First off he is behind the biggest organization in Ikebukoro he also orchestrated the largest event in series that led Celty to direct whereabouts of her head for the first time in 20 years. So he's hardly a coward that does nothing nor is he indecisive. He made his choice shutdown fairly quickly to avoid further conflict.
If you don't call that indecisiveness or cowardice, then it is sheer stupidity. The Dollars had no tag to begin with - shutting them down does absolutely nothing because the YS were attacking random people. In essence he IS a coward because he ran away from the problem. Did you even watch the scene where he hids underneath his blanket and ignores the phone calls?

That is the very portrayal of running away and cowardice.

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Celty didn't set him straight about anything either, just to have him help her stop Anri and Kida from having a violent confrontation.
Yeh, she did. He was hiding like a b*tch underneath his blankets to forget about the gang war, and only when she showed up did he gain some balls.


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Again this just shows how little you were paying attention. To began with, the current YS were not like YS in the past, especially since part of the group was replaced by a rival gang unknowingly to him. As long as this stay the case his control would have eventually broken down no matter what.

The only real bad decision he had made was to not confront Mikado about the Dollars earlier.....
You're the one who hasn't been paying attention.

It was Kiba's decision to let random people from the Blue Scarves join. It was his decision to do NOTHING after finding out Mikado was a part of the Dollars. At that point, he could've easily stopped everything by having a little chit chat with his friends. What did he do? He decides to avoid Mikado every day after school. He is like Mikado and thinks if he runs away, everything will fix itself.

It was his decision to not properly restrain the YS when they were still following him - yes they were former BS members, but they still followed his authority at that point. In short, he did absolutely NOTHING, and let the gang war go out of control. The blue scarf members were still following him to a degree, but his betrayal (yes he did betray them) by not doing anything about the Dollars (not even negotiating) even though he knew Mikado was the leader shows he is a piss poor excuse for a leader.
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