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Old 2012-05-27, 00:35   Link #263
Destined_Fate
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That hasn't stopped Amata from coming off as a total bastard before when concerning Zessica's feelings. Even when others are in trouble he always placed Mikono first, this is the first time he dropped Mikono completely, at least at that point, and tried his hardest to get to Zessica even though from what he saw she's most likely dead so no one would appreciate his efforts, not even himself if she's dead. And yes, Amata has come off as that sort of person since he has endangered the lives of others, and his own, for Mikono's sake. That isn't something new.


Yet he was sidetracked fast and the moment he saw his mother he completely dropped any more attempts to try and find and save Mix. So yes, he's that type of person when something that's important to him personally is involved. Like I said to Queen, it's the aftermath too. Amata didn't get too depressed over Mix going missing and was more concerned that Mikono was leaving "Without" him to go on a possible dangerous journey.


Yet he has done many things that would describe him as that when it came to Mikono. And yes, he would be angry/upset(happy?) because he has been building up for 21 episodes to get closer to Mikono with her being the one. Instead his heart reacted to Zessica like it does for Mikono and before he can deal with that sudden change Zessica is taken away from him. I wont deny that some of the things that Amata has done isn't very heroic and he's almost as selfish as Mikono but many of these things are explained because of his devotion to Mikono who isn't really that devoted at all.


Classic scene. She's with Amata... "Kagura..." Really Mikono? This has happened many times in the anime, she wants to learn more about Kagura and can't stop thinking about him even when Amata is right in front her. They literally had a scene with those two standing in front of each other and she's thinking about Kagura.


Wish she would step in when Kagura is beating up Amata for the thousandith time because he's trying to save/protect her. Strange that she doesn't want to apologize to Amata is Kagura and him are indeed the same person.


Yes she has. If she didn't have this issue she would have accept Amata's feelings already or rejected him. Instead she leads on him even though she knows Zessica actually loves Amata while she thinks about Kagura.


And again look what happened. Her afraid of getting hurt excuse has caused them all trouble more than once already. Even than, Zessica knew Amata would say no and she confessed despite being hurt badly because Amata is being lead on by Mikono and can't return her feelings due to that. So really, what was she afraid of being hurt for? Amata was already her loyal dog, he would do anything she wanted so she had no fear of rejection if it was a confession she was going for.

There is no evidence for your theory that Mikono spent the series being unfaithful to Amata, and trying to keep Amata and Kagura interested because she loves simultaneously having two guys who like her.

Yes there is. Her constant longing for Kagura and her interactions with him and her lack of action with Amata makes her a tease and very unfaithful since she apparently wants Amata but at the same time doesn't want to move forward with him.


Than you're out of luck, I gave you plenty of examples that have appeared multiple times in the anime. Do your own work if you doubt what I say despite their many appearances. If you can't even do that than there's no point in having this talk with you since all you're doing is saying "No Way!" and than ending it at that.



I only place blame where it is deserved.


Yes Mikono, had she not lead him on he wouldn't have been made such an easy tool to manipulate by Mykage. Just like Mikono(Mostly her) and Amata are to blame for Zessica being much easier to manipulate. You blame the source not the pawn.


Fudo left to find Aquarion, yet he does deserve blame for leaving suddenly when things hit the fan.


Anger doesn't need to make sense, Amata went there for here whether he knows he's tricked or not. Zessica paying for that makes it very plausible and justified for him to lash out in anger at Mikono when he finds out that she didn't even need him or even thought about him while on the journey.

And yes it does, anger lets people say things they normally would keep inside and locked away.



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Zessica didn't die after the kiss or during the kiss. It was after Amata was flying out of striking distance that she was attacked but her body isn't shown. So really, she isn't dead if they follow the rules of Anime. And yes he was, he's been obsessed the entire time trying to get with Mikono while she hasn't seemed all that interested but doesn't want to lose his attention to anyone, especially not Zessica who actually cares.

Yet that doesn't change that he tried harder to get Zessica back even after the fact that he's sure she's dead. While with Mix he just went with the flow and wasn't anywhere near as distraught over it as he was when he thinks he lost Zessica due to his own brashness to go to the city alone to "help" Mikono. So no, it isn't just being a good friend. Especially not after his gheart reacted to her and we've seen how he acts for friends, Mix and Andy, compared to things involving Mikono and to an extent Zessica.



Yes she does. Have you been watching the anime? It started out as playful teasing and fun for her but as the anime went one she genuelly fell in love with Amata while Mikono just loves him and... That's it. No real reason is given other than that Destiny stuff. Their relationship is that underdeveloped, even Mix and Andy have a stronger relationship than Amata and Mikono and they're side characters with most of their interactions happening off screen.

She now knows that they're basically the same guy, which means why she's lusting for Kagura but doesn't want to give up Amata. Zessica on the other hand doesn't care about that stuff and even if Amata isn't whole she loved him anyway which is a lot more than what Mikono feels.



Yes she does. Even when she's with Amata guess who she's thinking about? Kagura. The first few times it was kinda cute because he's that mysterious bad boy that wants her. After a while it gets old and makes her look horrible as a person. Amata is right there, she's leading him on and who does she fantasize about while she's with him? Kagura, many many times.



Funny how Mikono seems to always have things to do which is why she can't even say "I love you Amata" or "Let's make this official". Instead she leads him on than after Mix is taken she has the nerve to not only drag him to the side and say he can't come with her but that she wants him to "Wait", like he's ben doing since Episode 1, for her. Who the heck does that? A tease that's who and it's a very unlikeable trait.


Zessica has had to deal with the consequences of her actions and her inability to stop loving Amata because unlike Mikono she actually loves Amata for who he is and actually wants something more. Mikono is content just leading him on and not letting their relationship progress which has been extremely damaging to both Amata and Zessica, physically and mentally. Amata almost died multiple times "because" of Mikono and the girl doesn't even want to hold his hand yet doesn't want to give him up either. That makes her a bad person, a very bad person.


And look what happened, Amata and Zessica have been repeatedly hurt because Mikono is ridiculously selfish.



You got that confuesd. Mikono isn't waiting for Amata, Amata is waiting for her. She knows he isn't going anywhere. And yes it is, it was explained over 10+ episodes that developed Zessica from teasing Amata to falling in love with him. Mikono on the other hand just does and the viewer is meant to accept that with no explanation which makes her current treatment of Amata even worse in that regard.


Showing regret means nothing when she has all the power to end their suffering all on her own. Admit she wants to be with Amata so Zessica can stop hoping that Amata might still be within reach, since you know those two aren't dating still, or reject him so Amata can stop being lead on with false hope that Mikono will actually try and move their relationship to the dating stage.



Yes, most of the blame is Miono's fault because she knows exactly what's going on but refuses to choose or take any responsibility since she has the power to end it all with just a single sentence. And pulling the bias card? Only those that lack the will to convey their feelings in a logical manner resort to such a weak and baseless argument to try and cover their tracks. I suggest you refrain from any more personal attacks.

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He responded to her kiss definitely. But to her feelings, there's no concrete proof to make that claim. About Mikono, some of what you said was true to an extent regarding her indecisiveness hurting Amata and Zessica, but i would wait until the next two episodes to see if whether or not she defects to Kagura completely before the hating can commence.
Other than that, i believe Zessica will become a lot more awesome in the coming episodes and im hoping for her to become a shadow angel(unlikely tho) and she is most likely gonna die but i think her character development is similar to Sirius mixed with Touma, so she will probably survive to surprise.
Mikage in red background with that expression = Zessica in a whole lot of trouble.
Also Mikage's facial expression towards Zessica the first time they meant still bothers me since that expression seems to be only reserved for her.

If Mikono lets Amata down and goes for Kagura I will have gained some respect for her character. It would be a very interesting twist that's for sure. I personally would rather Zessica not die, it would be a disservice to her character and too predictable. They put way too much time on her if they planned to kill her off from the start. Would seem like a waste of resources considering that Amata and Mikono are lacking a lot in development compared to Zessica and the side cast.

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