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MidoriHiME · 2012-09-03, 09:09

Spoiler for Extreme Never7 & Ever17 spoilers and Remember11:

OK. So, finished with everything but one of the bad ends (Izumi's) and whatever the final thing in the clear list is, but I read all the TIPs so i think I have a pretty comprehensive view of the story.

OK, so, there are some things in this game that make Ever17 make 0 sense. So, Julia got Cure Virus from her friend who had the PSYCHOLOGICAL disorder of Cure Syndrome...how does a psychological disorder make your dna change?? Also, her friend supposedly only touched her. If that's the case, shouldn't Coco have been exosed to Cure before they gave her the anitbodies? I'm pretty sure Tsugumi touched her when she saved her from the boxes both...plus, if they all had Cure and could make delusions reality as long as they believed in them, why did they even need BlickWinckel anyway? >.<

and then, reading the timeline, it seems to imply that even SATORU had Cure somehow because he had such a firm belief in SELF that he made it exist...what???

Well, really, Cure itself makes no sense. In Ever17 it was just some weird evil virus, but now it's also a kind of delusion that can make other people believe your delusions? And in Izumi & Makoto's case, they weren't just sharing an idea, they were sharing an entire universe...How can two people have that exact same delusion? They were basically two individuals living in their own imaginations, so how could their imaginations overlap? It doesn't make any sense...and wouldn't realizing it's all a delusion make the delusion collapse anyway?

Maybe I'm just oversimplifying Cure Syndrome and Cure Virus into the same thing or completely misunderstanding, well, everything, but since Julia's friend had the syndrome and managed to give Julia the virus, this implies to me they are basically the same thing, since all of the symptoms of the syndrome were passed on via the virus (delusions becoming reality, esp. in regards to healing). The only real difference I can see between the two is that Syndrome is psychological, but the virus actually affects your dna. Never7 seems to only deal with the psychological aspect since no one seems to have super-healing abilities or anything like that, but then I really don't get how Julia got a dna-warping virus from a friend's psychological condition...unless her friend only had the psychological conditions because he also had the virus OR he only had the virus but his doctor was convinced it was all psychological...in which case, does the syndrome even exist?? It MUST, or else Never7 makes no sense...ahhh I am so confused.

sorry, that was ramble-y and made no sense, but basically I just want to know what exactly the virus is versus the syndrome/if there IS a difference and if there is, how could something psychological become a physical virus that changes dna...

2012-09-03, 09:09	Link #74
MidoriHiME Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Spoiler for Extreme Never7 & Ever17 spoilers and Remember11: OK. So, finished with everything but one of the bad ends (Izumi's) and whatever the final thing in the clear list is, but I read all the TIPs so i think I have a pretty comprehensive view of the story. OK, so, there are some things in this game that make Ever17 make 0 sense. So, Julia got Cure Virus from her friend who had the PSYCHOLOGICAL disorder of Cure Syndrome...how does a psychological disorder make your dna change?? Also, her friend supposedly only touched her. If that's the case, shouldn't Coco have been exosed to Cure before they gave her the anitbodies? I'm pretty sure Tsugumi touched her when she saved her from the boxes both...plus, if they all had Cure and could make delusions reality as long as they believed in them, why did they even need BlickWinckel anyway? >.< and then, reading the timeline, it seems to imply that even SATORU had Cure somehow because he had such a firm belief in SELF that he made it exist...what??? Well, really, Cure itself makes no sense. In Ever17 it was just some weird evil virus, but now it's also a kind of delusion that can make other people believe your delusions? And in Izumi & Makoto's case, they weren't just sharing an idea, they were sharing an entire universe...How can two people have that exact same delusion? They were basically two individuals living in their own imaginations, so how could their imaginations overlap? It doesn't make any sense...and wouldn't realizing it's all a delusion make the delusion collapse anyway? Maybe I'm just oversimplifying Cure Syndrome and Cure Virus into the same thing or completely misunderstanding, well, everything, but since Julia's friend had the syndrome and managed to give Julia the virus, this implies to me they are basically the same thing, since all of the symptoms of the syndrome were passed on via the virus (delusions becoming reality, esp. in regards to healing). The only real difference I can see between the two is that Syndrome is psychological, but the virus actually affects your dna. Never7 seems to only deal with the psychological aspect since no one seems to have super-healing abilities or anything like that, but then I really don't get how Julia got a dna-warping virus from a friend's psychological condition...unless her friend only had the psychological conditions because he also had the virus OR he only had the virus but his doctor was convinced it was all psychological...in which case, does the syndrome even exist?? It MUST, or else Never7 makes no sense...ahhh I am so confused. sorry, that was ramble-y and made no sense, but basically I just want to know what exactly the virus is versus the syndrome/if there IS a difference and if there is, how could something psychological become a physical virus that changes dna... __________________