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Originally Posted by Kaijo

It was your argument that said an RPG can take out a cyborg. RPG's use HE and HEAT rounds. The mariage fired an HE round that could take out a tank, and didn't take out Subaru.

Thus, which is it? Answer the question. Can an HE round that can take out a tank, take out a cyborg? You're trying to split hairs here, and hoping people won't actually be informed enough about military equipment to see the weakness. AN HEAT round is specifically made to penetrate tank armor. It's actually less destructive than a plain HE round.

What's so hard to understand that a HEAT round, which has a different mode of destruction, can destroy targets that a HE round cannot. Some targets are better engaged with HE (like soft, fleshy humans/mages and weak Kampfwagens) and others with HEAT (like better defended targets).

As for the HE round, the very fact that a small caliber HE round can do the job says much about the tank, because while a HE round has a larger blast radius and thus may be loosely be called "more destructive", its omnidirectionality limits intensity and the nature of its blast makes it weak against hard targets. Not that the weakness of the tank does anything to save a mage's reputation, because a mage apparently won't have survived that round.

So, someone with multiple explanations clearly loses the argument? Congrats; you just made yourself the loser. You have WAY more explanations than anyone else here. We simply believe that in all cases, AB/BJ's can guard against most mass-based weapons. You have a dozen or more explanations to try and explain each situation.

It is easier when you don't have to fit the hypothesis to contradictory observations.

Besides, I don't think my answer is necessarily more complicated. I've decided on a layered scheme. The BJ with individual variation is basically useless (kinetically) so it can be blamed for all the weak spots. Active defenses with individual variation are more useful. It is not only very simple, but it layered structure allows its to capably cover all the situations w/o further discomfort PLUS it allows the maximum possible adherence to scientific principles.

Your answer is to say that the the AB/BJ is integral. Now that you have already concluded it can guard against most mass-based weapons, an explanation has to be come up with for each time it does not, even when it actually is contradictory to the information available.

And there weren't multiple explanations. There was a single explanation from our side: In both cases, the AB/BJ was weakened. That's it. That's one explanation that covers both.

That's not called one explanation that covers both, because then you have the very obvious question for WHY the AB/BJ was weakened, and you had to use two explanations, which would have been disadvantageous, but not an instant killer if not for the fact that one of them doesn't even fit the facts as given (so technically, your "one explanation" leaves 1 unexplained), and neither considered the problem of magnitude. IN short, your theory didn't even make the starter's gate, let alone to Occam's Razor.

Yes, it's so obvious now!

Mass based weapons move slow.
Magic moves slow.
People move slow (they block instead of dodging a lot).

So the Nanoverse must move slower than our universe! They all move the same relative speeds in the Nanoverse, so it all balances out. The explanation is so obvious now, thanks to your expert observations! =)

Except they move at reasonably normal speeds in their lives. Next.