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Old 2013-06-16, 20:04   Link #1462
dniv
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Join Date: May 2013
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Originally Posted by Goldzero View Post
if you want an example of a bad pole for mikoto and kuroko here you go http://seventhstyle.com/2013/04/30/t...f-spring-2013/

heres another one for touma http://sgcafe.com/2013/06/animedia-r...poll-rankings/ he was ranked 26(hes rank seems to be alright) but i noticed that some of the most well liked and popular characters are rank low and a number of the most hated ones are ranked pretty high(not a legit poll in my opinion but it does seem to have quite a number of voters) but great to see mikoto ranked so high and my fav male character gintoki.

http://sgcafe.com/2013/06/animedia-r...me-series-are/ TAMNI was ranked 19 here where railgun S is ranked 30.

http://thekingofhate.com/forums/Thre...ed-Number-1-is TAMNI was ranked 4th as best light novel adaption.


i don't know how i keep finding these polls
I can help

It's a good thing I'm a mathematician and I know a tiny bit of statistics.

This is the most likely scenario:

What's happening here is called response bias. There are four major types of bias seen in statistics that completely invalidate polls. This is one perfect example that you need to consider when you see any poll.

(In terms of 2ch... its 2ch... its determing who's more Moe... not just anime heroine... given that... how would Mikoto win lol... she's not that Moe... Uiharu is voiced by Yui so that actually makes sense... you could call Misaki moe as well... see you have to read the details... I learned all of this in high school stats and owe my teacher... she said... remember these things if you take anything from this class... because it will help you later in life, you have to be critical of what you are reading). (The comments also say here that it is about Moeness and they even say that 2ch usually has bad taste when it comes to these things in general...) my point exactly.

(BTW: the 4th poll was about anime adaptations of light novels... go to the link where the actual poll is; it's not about which light novel is best. They mis-quoted what the poll was about. Checking sources is another common error in polls, which it's your responsibility to see through ) In terms of adaptations, Index only has 2 seasons... and Railgun S just came out and not that many people have seen it yet... and Index anime is certainly not complete, not even the first part is complete. Most importantly, the page says do not add any anime from this season. Therefore, Railgun S wasn't factored into the decision... that obviously makes a difference I guess... Also, the original place this poll source was taken from has a lot of complaining comments that all disagree with this list. None of them are happy with it. That might be saying something important Lolz...

(BTW: 2nd and 3rd poll Animedia is a spanish search engine and reflects the opinions of the hispanic world. That might be accurate, but only in that world which doesn't see as much Japanese anime/LNs and which has different cultural values anyways from wikipedia: animedia was the first search engine dedicated to anime and manga in Spanish, most Spanish anime web pages are now based on the services that animedia gives, in 2002 they offered the first oekaki service and the first IRC chat service dedicated to Spanish-speaking anime fans, also in 2002 they did the first Spanish translation of the very Famous webcomic Megatokyo made by Fred Ghallagher, most services like "add your link", Forum, Live Radio, ecards, mail lists, and even free webmail where the first ever offered for the Spanish anime fans, the way Animedia got many users because of its "help the fans" policy...... like I said population bias
Considering how much more catholic/Christian/Protestant the Spanish-speaking world is: this could greatly account for the skewedness of those two poles in terms of the popularity of Index... who wants their religion being portrayed in the way Index is portraying it?)

Consider this: the people who respond to these polls are either on those particular websites, or are the people who are into tons of different anime enough, don't represent the majority of people you would talk to, you would know, or you are considering when you are thinking about this poll.

I'm pretty sure a lot of Railgun S and Index fans didn't participate in this poll; otherwise, the results would have been completely different.

For that reason, a lot of famous series/characters are downplayed from where they should be. The truly great characters i.e. those from Gintama and other such series that are really really popular and that have been really popular will score high because people "know" those are the best and will gravitate towards them. They don't want to pick "side characters" that other people won't support as well.

The main problem as I see it is that most people don't know about these things in time or just aren't interested. If we polled all of the viewers of these different animes that are released and the different characters in a while after everyone is told about this via T.V. commercials, news articles, and lots of other things, we would most likely see different results.

If the general public voted for example, Goku would most likely be #1 and like usual Pikachu would probably be #2. It just depends on who is willing to stay updated and who will respond to the poll and who else people think is actually responding to the poll.

You have to be in the loop to respond.

That's why most internet polls are useless when it comes to determining the importance of a character unless they involve at least millions of people and are publicized well in advance and widely and ask from a wide variety of sources for their opinion, not the same group of people

Hope this helps. There are still a lot of people who love TAMNI and Railgun more than other series. It's just that with so little Index stuff going on lately, most samples taken from the anime population or general population won't rate Index first because it's not fresh on their minds. As soon as part 1 is complete, the series will be legendary enough for people to think of it as one of those top-notch top quality series. Right now, at the end of season 2, the Index anime is at a point where it doesn't compare to those other series. The LN's are different, but only by getting an anime will the opinions of a lot of people change in contrast to the 5,000-10,000 extra new readers who join with each Light Novel that is released (accounting for internet readers).

I hope this helped at all.

Me ranting like usual... I need to stop this...

Last edited by dniv; 2013-06-16 at 21:45.
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