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Originally Posted by Alu
Despite the fact though that we could sometimes pair-them in terms of level of "perfection" achieveded; like Hina+Kana / Gin+Shinku, etc;
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I disagree, their level of perfection is equal within all, or, at the very least, we cannot say which one is higher than the other. This mainly because we do not know what Rozen would believe is to be the 'perfect doll' alias Alice. Besides, perfection in itself is an abstract word, there is no absolute definition for it, only the feeling of, and as everyone has their own opinion on perfection we cannot argue which of the dolls would be considered 'the most perfect', the only thing we know for sure is that, from Rozen's point of view, all of these dolls were not yet perfect.
My personal believe for the many dolls would then have to be indeed because the first doll was imperfect due to the lack of one aspect and the 'overcompensation' of another.
One virtue to little and one sin to much.
It is an interesting thing to note that in the Catholic religion, seven virtues and seven 'main' sins were written down to be either the 'best of the best' or the 'worst of the worst'. I have yet to look deeper into it, but it is possible that every doll resembles one such feature of both sides, hence giving them a part of perfection (a virtue) and apart of imperfection (a sin).
Would it be that once one doll obtained all seven sins and all seven virtues, the famed eight virtue would come into play (Justice) hence giving that doll more virtues than sins, and making her 'perfect'? Maybe.
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Originally Posted by Alu
To Enju however even though he placed the same amout of love into all of his dolls, he would still destroy those that ended up as failures.., and his desire for his only creation to surpass those of others showed us that he has clearly not the same feeling towards "all" dolls.
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Originally Posted by Alu
it is revealed that Enju is not the man known as Rozen or "Father", but a jealous apprentice of his who sought to eclipse his master's art.
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Originally Posted by Alu
Pure and simply , its just a very calculative & cold aspect of her personality when towards the means to achieve her goals
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Originally Posted by Alu
However, he failed on something (something that some say it was the Rosa Mystica that Bara did not have of her own).., which then inevitabily lead to her self-destruction when she atempted to achieve "Alice".
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Those three quotes made me think.
First of all, is it really love that Enju showed towards his dolls, or, at least, love of the same level as Rozen gave to his dolls. I dare to doubt that. Rozen gave life to the dolls of which he knew were imperfect, with the most prominent example of Suigintou, who was both physically and mentally imperfect.
The second quote states that Enju was a 'jealous apprentice' who wanted to beat Rozen at dollcraft. That leads to the conclusion, for me at least, that his doll was not made with the pure love Rozen felt, but with the longing for vengeance and, above all, the longing to be better. Was the love, if it was love at all, a cruel love, the love of his dreams of crushing Rozen's love?
That leads me to the point of believing that her character was/is a reflection of the love Enju gave her, calculated and cold indeed with only as goal to beat the other dolls. Would the failing of giving 'true' love be the reason why she could not become Alice? The main virtue was, after all, the virtue of Love.
That does raise another question, assuming Rozen's love was real, would that not make the dolls perfect already? Who knows, I really need to look into that sometime later.