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Originally Posted by DonQuigleone
I don't know, defending Yaoi is like defending the indefensible. I don't even think Fujoshi really care to defend themselves either. They know what they're reading is smut. All power to them I guess.
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Yeah but, see, the same guys who go "OMIGOD EWW YAOI" also go "squeeeeee" at loli, oppai, ecchi, tsundere, action girl sex dolls (lol Kaioshin), and, lawl, trap, among other things.
So fujoshi "squee" at their BL pairings, while moe fans like me squee at all sorts of other stuff, what's the difference? What do you feel (well, maybe you don't; I don't know if you're a moe fan like me or not) when you have to defend squeeing over moe because of some "serious mecha/sci-fi anime fan" wet paper bags insulting us and our soft spots? It's precisely what Midonin is creating this thread to argue against (well partly). Like, dudes, let it go.
And by the way Bunny x Tiger is totally squee. XD
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Originally Posted by Kirarakim
Is there no manga where the Yuri is explicit? I would be really surprised by that.
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On another note from my understanding Yuri also started out as a Shoujo genre, I am not really sure if that's still the case or not though.
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There is some, naturally; and yes it did start that way.
Despite the perception otherwise in the West yuri fans in Japan are mixed gender, even largely women at times (depending on magazine demographic targets). Girl on girl porn, yup that's a male thing.