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Vicious108 · 2012-07-01, 21:19

If you truly want to connect the dots, you should go for the F/SN Visual Novel, not the DEEN anime adaptation. Just saying.

1. That was just a misguided adaptation on the part of DEEN. In the Visual Novel, Saber said that she and Gilgamesh "clashed amidst a sea of flames", but DEEN had them fight after everything was already in ruins, meaning the Grail had already been destroyed and thus Saber could no longer be there.

Though it has to be said that the way the Fate/Zero Light Novel did their confrontation did surprise a lot of people and is indeed considered a retcon by some, since it's hard to call it a fight or a clash, but I suppose one could chalk that up to Saber trying to save face.

As for the flames being missing in the Fate/Zero anime, that was a choice ufotable made, because they were there in the LN (the fire began in the Saber vs Berserker match and covered the whole building).

2. That was covered in detail in the one route in the Visual Novel which wasn't animated:

Spoiler for Heavens Feel:

2012-07-01, 21:19	Link #120
Vicious108 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007	If you truly want to connect the dots, you should go for the F/SN Visual Novel, not the DEEN anime adaptation. Just saying. 1. That was just a misguided adaptation on the part of DEEN. In the Visual Novel, Saber said that she and Gilgamesh "clashed amidst a sea of flames", but DEEN had them fight after everything was already in ruins, meaning the Grail had already been destroyed and thus Saber could no longer be there. Though it has to be said that the way the Fate/Zero Light Novel did their confrontation did surprise a lot of people and is indeed considered a retcon by some, since it's hard to call it a fight or a clash, but I suppose one could chalk that up to Saber trying to save face. As for the flames being missing in the Fate/Zero anime, that was a choice ufotable made, because they were there in the LN (the fire began in the Saber vs Berserker match and covered the whole building). 2. That was covered in detail in the one route in the Visual Novel which wasn't animated: Spoiler for Heavens Feel: Illya wanted to kill Shirou from the start because she felt Kiritsugu had dumped her and replaced her with a new child without a care. She probably spent those ten years between the two wars being told how much of an ungrateful devil Kiritsugu was for betraying the Einzberns and abandoning her, not knowing he did try to get her back. She was disappointed when she found out Kiritsugu was already dead, so killing Shirou, the one who, in her eyes, had stolen him from her, became her main motivation. Though deep down she just wanted some love from an Emiya in her own yandere way.