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Old 2013-03-28, 21:28   Link #1011
Demi.
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Originally Posted by Kaijo View Post
Understand that it was not I that brought up the argument of "main character." You, and your side, brought up the argument to defend Fate's development. "Well, she's a main character, so of course she should get development over mere side characters!" Something like that. And so, I merely toss the argument back at you. Like I said, if you don't like that argument, we can drop it.

But if so, then you get no more arguments who who is deserving of screentime based on character status. Agree? You willing to drop the "because main character!" argument totally?
Because main characters should get more screen time then mere side characters. Fate's simply not a side character. When did the series ever indicate otherwise? Yuki Nagato is not a side character either, so if they decide to focus on her more for one of the installments, then that's fair game as well. Now if they spent considerable time on Asakura Ryouko at the expensive of Haruhi or Yuki...Then it becomes an issue. Of course, it makes zero sense to do this, both on a technical point of view, and on a business point.

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As I said, the plot of the movie is more important to me than any one character. Hence when I laid out the two sides above. One side cares more about 1 or 2 characters above all else. The other prefers balance and what is best for the plot.
As long as the individual scenes can stand on their own, I really could care less about the plot. I'll save that for the franchises I feel made good use of story telling in the past.


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We all like to think that our viewpoints are the prevailing ones. It is an outgrowth of the idea that we are the center of our own universe. I am not so arrogant as to presume that everyone fell in love with Nanoha for the exact same reasons as me. The reasons you came to like it are yours, and to be fair, yes, there are a number of other people who like Fate.

But you can't sit there and pretend that there isn't a more varied fan base. Well, I suppose you can pretend if you want. But I find it really odd that a supposed Fate fan really wants to diminish the character they claim to love, by having her regurgitate her same plot issues over and over again, instead of allowing her branch out and explore things like her relationship with Chrono and Lindy. That even taking 30 seconds or 5 minutes away from her, somehow means the end of the world.
I know my viewpoint holds pretty solid ground based on the opinions and reviews I've seen all through out the internet. Whether it be from Japan, or some other country. Who would I rather put my faith in? A group of critics that like to get technical and find flaws in the series almost anyone else would overlook, or anime sites with over a thousand ratings that give the movie overwhelmingly high marks? Honestly, the people you refer to who want a "more varied story" well, they're the ones who will watch it once and be done with the series. That's not who Tsuzuki wants to cater to.



Lets put this into perspective:

Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha A's
Score: 8.231 (scored by 15208 users)
Members: 25,428
Favorites: 695

Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha the movie 2nd A's
Score: 8.501 (scored by 1013 users)
Members: 4,624
Favorites: 32

Yes, I'm aware the series has far, far more members who watched it, yet the movie released a mere week ago. The score only continues to rise. And 1000 ratings is a sizable enough number to get the gist of how people feel about it. Yet you feel your changes would somehow make the movie even more loved. Topping that of the series, and the movie that reinvented it. Why not go and be a director or a screen writer if you feel so confident about it?

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http://myanimelist.net/anime/10153/M...e_Movie_2nd_As
http://myanimelist.net/anime/77/Maho...ical_Nanoha_As

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That's not healthy, dude. If you can't stomach your favorite character losing 5 or 10 minutes, when they they probably have at least half the screen time in a 2.5 hour movie, then I'd highly suggest you take a step back and reevaluate. Because it makes the rest of us see this. Fate losing 5 or 10 minutes will not kill the franchise nor chase people away. Especially since she's probably not losing that much, due to an expanded dream sequence that showcases her feelings and development toward her new family. And being a bit more badass in the first encounter.

But all you can see is what is taken away... not what you gain.

The franchise wasn't dying before we knew there was a scene where Fate gave a classmate an eraser. The franchise will continue on even if that scene never existed. It's not the end of the world.
You want to remove a number of scenes. Turning the franchise into something it's really not. All of the lighthearted moments you want scrapped for plot relevance. I wouldn't consider that " Scrapping Fate giving a classmate an eraser and being done with it." Quite frankly, I don't care what you see in me. I think of you all as overly critical of the amount of "excessive" screen time Fate doesn't even have.
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