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Originally Posted by Allen
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In the novel Tadakatsu gets hurt because of Muneshige's attacks. And it wasn't just scratches, you know. Gin is normally badass when she is serious mode, but she just doesn't like to fight seriously because she prefers that her husband gets these moments. Because of that there weren't much scenes involving them being awesome (maybe when Gin defeated Francis Drake in Vol2). Well, in 4A Muneshige got the old weapon of Sakai, so this means that very soon he'll get to fight seriously against someone 
About the joke: the Lype Kataslypsi is now used by Horizon, but in a lot of important moments its attacks were blocked/canceled. Because of that they say that the Lype Kataslypsi is useless -> The one who was using it, it's useless too.
When Miriam and Azuma talked for the first time, she was testing him to see if he was really someone very serious. She was like giving him "points" about every action of him in the first time they met. And it was possible to see how difficult was supposed to be her route when:
Azuma - "Let's get well being strangers."
Miriam - "If you had said, Let's start as strangers, then "what is the end? Go away" is what I would be saying now."
And I don't know how, but I did it. The summary for the third volume is below and I think that is good to know that this summary is way longer than the other ones that I did until now 
Spoiler for V3 Summary:
Spoiler for History Knowledge:
This volume finally starts mixing the events in the Sengoku Period together with the events in the Europe. Main events:
Second? Battle of Shigizuka Kawaguchi; *jp wiki
Sack of Madgeburg;
Battle of Mikatagahara;
Battle of Nagashino;
Start of the Bunroku Keicho no Eki ~ First Invasions (more details later?);
Okay, in this volume these events had a lot of importance. In few words:
Second Battle of Shigizuka Kawaguchi: K.P.A.Italia X P.A.ODA;
Sack of Madgeburg: P.A.ODA/M.H.R.R. Catholics X M.H.R.R. Protestants/Musashi/Hexagone Française;
Battle of Mikatagahara/Start of the Bunroku Keicho no Eki: Shin Takeda/P.A.ODA X Musashi (details later);
Battle of Nagashino: P.A.ODA X Shin Takeda;
In the summary itself I’ll try to explain better these events.
Spoiler for V3A-1:
*During the story this time there were some talks between Ryuinu and Anne. About how Anne was feeling that she was going to die soon. <- Very important
Musashi is in IZUMO getting repairs from the Armada War. New daily-life of the Musashi Students. Now that Muneshige/Gin/Mary are there too we get to see new interactions, Nate (Neito)’s flags for getting faster, Toori’s eroges being discovered (Student council’s room, Nate’s house, etc…), Horizon wanting to know about her mother by talking with Mitsu, Suzu helping “Musashi”, etc…
At IZUMO, Masazumi was getting infos with Ben and Walsingham. Futayo and Neshimbara are attacked by four of the Sanada Braves. The fight is stopped when Ushinao, Yoshiyasu and Yoshitsune appeared. Then, it’s decided that these leaders are going to meet at an english’s restaurant (something like that) to talk.
Obs.: From this start we have the presence of Neshimbara’s stalker in the chat
Negotiation 1:
*The Satomi and the Hojo Clan are going to be, according to the history, under Matsudaira (Musashi).
Hojo Ushinao and Satomi Yoshiyori decided only to trust Musashi if they show enough power (war, politics, as a country in general). They were going to confirm this in the battle against Hexagone Française that would happen the next day. Their main objective was to see if Musashi could go to different battles without any brakes (like there was until now).
*Musashi’s future plans (by Masazumi): After leaving IZUMO (Hexagone Française wasn’t going to accept that Musashi stayed for more time in IZUMO~Testamet Union’s influence), they were going to go recreate the Battle of Mikatagahara, go to Mikawa/Kantou region.
*Battle of Mikatagahara: A battle which Matsudaira was going to lose badly to the Takeda (Shingen Takeda’s forces) and Naruse Masayoshi (Marga Naruze) was supposed to die. After this battle the Takeda Clan would start losing its power.
Yoshitsune who was at the same time Shingen Takeda and Nurhaci didn’t care about Musashi. But she proposed that if they could make her feel something that she would think of a way in which Musashi wasn’t going to be in a position so bad. This was the condition because to Yoshitsune who already lived for too much time (first character to appear in the anime), there wasn’t any meaning in the lives of people who would die after living just a few years.
Who was the only who could do that in Musashi? Just the idiot naked Toori, We have the “chonmage” scene and after as awesome talk between him and Yoshitsune, she decided to help them.
*In the way to Mikawa, they were going to pass into the region of Mitsuhide Akechi (member of P.A.ODA~enemies of Musashi). To pass there without any trouble, it was proposed to use Azuma’s position as the son of the “Mikado”. In the end, it was decided that Yoshitsune was going to help if needed and that they wouldn’t be using Azuma.
Then, Matsunaga appeared. He appeared without any bodyguards in the middle of four Chancellor enemies just to say that he wanted to know about the ones he was going to “destroy” later. Later Masazumi confirmed that they are going to fight in the future and that the main objective this time would be going to the Kantou region while having to fight against an enemy of Matsunaga’s scale. -> Not exactly this, but…
Btw, Toori already knew Matsunaga because he always bought the eroge he created. lol
Spoiler for V3B-2:
Back to Musashi:
*We get infos that Persona-kun may be an important person of the Mori clan. Maybe;
*Hexagone Française, M.H.R.R. Protestants and Musashi turned into allies;
*Rescue Team regroups with Toori and Nate Maman -> Mission: Go to the tower where is Rudolf II (near Madgeburg) and get a certain document about the Apocalypse made by Carlos I;
*Musashi is attacked by P.A.ODA:
- Shibata Katsuie, Sassa with the help of Takigawa -> Destroy a place in Musashi;
- Marga was trying to prevent an attack from Takigawa’s ship;
- Muneshige, Gin, some members of the Sanada clan, Adele (against Sassa), Futayo were fighting against the other two -> Shibata destroyed a part of Tombokiri?
- Musashi members prevented the worst and they left;
- Gozen-sama appeared -> Marry me!
Anne finally appears, we get more info about the Sack of Madgeburg, Yoshiyasu’s future developments hints, the team in HF starts getting prepared to go to Rudolf II’s place.
Second Battle of Shigizuka Kawaguchi:
*P.A.ODA X K.P.A.Italia;
*Kuki Yoshitaka and Suzuki Magoichi were the main members of the P.A.ODA side;
*Murakami Motoyoshi and Tachibana Dousetsu were the main members of the K.P.A.Italia side;
*P.A.ODA attacking K.P.A.Italia;
*K.P.A.Italia had the advantage in the end, but P.A.ODA used something that was never seen before: A bomb that has the same effects (but in a smaller scale) of a Platonic Plate Reactor going out of control (episode 5 of the anime shows this very well). Btw, the name of this bomb is something like: “Dragon Plate Reactor/Dragon Pulse Reactor”.
Spoiler for V3C-1:
Consequences of the Second Battle of Shigizuka Kawaguchi: The tsundere for Musashi Pope President, Innocentius, disappeared. -> The leader of the Testament Union isn’t here anymore! -> Then, because we (P.A.ODA) won this battle, we are going to take control of the Testament Union, okay?
Negotiation 3:
Participants: Masazumi (Musashi/Matsudaira), Anne/Ryuinu (HF), Gozen-sama and Guericke (M.H.R.R. Protestants), Matsunaga/Suleiman (P.A.ODA).
*Anne was a little “harsh” against Masazumi;
*Guericke was always ignored by Gozen-sama -> Change with me Guericke!
*Matsunaga was there, but being more an ally of Musashi than of P.A.ODA. Same for Suleiman, I think;
*In the end the main topic was if Musashi was going to join them in an anti-P.A.ODA faction. They know that Musashi still haven’t enough power as a country and wanted to know how they were going to react in relation to that.
*Masazumi’s answer was something like that: “Musashi is going to the Kantou region to get stronger, while this is happening you can test us. When we got back we’ll be a real country.”
Team in HF:
*After some events, they finally arrive at the tower where Rudolf II is;
*Because of some conditions, only Nate gets to meet him;
*Epic battle between them;
*Nate finally discovers how to get faster and faster;
*Nate wins in the end and discovers that Rudolf II is a woman? Maybe yes, maybe not;
*The team completes its mission getting the Carlos I notes and starts going to Madgeburg.
Preparation of the Sack of Madgeburg. Before this battle and the other ones after that, let me put here in a simple way Musashi’s objectives from now on:
1. Help in the recreation of the Sack of Madgeburg. (against P.A.ODA)
- Regroup with Toori’s team.
2. Leave Madgeburg and go against Matsunaga.
3. Recreation of the Battle of Mikatagahara together with Yoshitsune.
4. Go to the Kantou region.
Spoiler for V3C-2:
Sack of Madgeburg: (Don’t remember lots of details)
*P.A.ODA/M.H.R.R. Catholics X M.H.R.R. Protestants/HF/Musashi;
*P.A.ODA starts the attack. Main members in the front lines: Sassa and Shibata;
*Sassa X Marga ~ Later we have Sassa X Marga/Margot;
*Nate Maman says that she’ll send Nate later, so the rest of the team goes on first. But her objective was to test her daughter once more. Nate with the help of the Ex. Collbrande gets to pass in this test. -> Here we discover why she is loyal to Toori too;
*Shibata goes against a lot of enemies (Gozen-sama, Muneshige, Gin, Futayo);
*Maeda uses his zombie’s army;
*HF counters that;
*Tenzou, Mary and Toori regroup with Naomasa;
*Shibata gets to destroy the core? of Tombokiri;
*He is only “defeated” after a lot of effort and a surprise attack by Nate Maman -> パネエ;
*P.A.ODA starts retreating?, only to some time later use a “Dragon Pulse Reactor”;
*Anne together with the help of Ryuinu prevented the worst (HF/Musashi’s members death) in a very good, yet sad scene -> ;_______;
- Remember the price Toori had to pay for that ability in the first volume? Jud., if he feels sad, he’ll die. -> Asama “lied” to prevent Toori from dying...
- Musashi leaves, but Maeda and Takigawa’s ships try to prevent them from going;
- Suzu gets to be known as a moe character in the tripulation of Takigawa’s ship;
- Maeda’s ships are “ghost ships”. Asama destroys two of them (just not do anymore because there isn’t more fluid/ether) -> Critical Miko;
- Hassan destroys one of these ships using curry -> lol;
Obs.: Matsunaga is like a senpai “destroyer” of Nobunaga. According to the history, he dies after betraying Nobunaga for the second time. He had already done that once.
Against? Matsunaga:
*In the end he let Musashi pass and starts a battle against Maeda’s ships;
*He was already with the intention of dying (betrayed Nobunaga for the second time);
*Nobunaga sends a message to him saying that he would be forgiven one more time;
*Before dying he says that he’ll win the bet of knowing who is going to change the world from now on: An idiot who only thinks of destroying (Nobunaga) or an idiot who only thinks of constructing (Toori);
*Only few people get to know about this (at first) and they don’t tell anything to Toori.
Spoiler for V3C-3:
Note: The Battle of Nagashino is the Battle where Shingen Takeda dies. Here in Horizon it's not necessary for that to happen, but in some cases...
Battle of Mikatagahara:
*Maeda starts negotiating with Yoshitsune, saying that they would help them in this battle (don’t forget that P.A.ODA has the Testament Union under their control now);
*Masazumi enters this discussion to try to prevent this from happening;
*Maeda uses the argument that Musashi has intention of harm against P.A.ODA (Musashi wasn’t supposed to participate in the Sack of Madgeburg);
*Masazumi discovers that this was a trap (it was impossible to get out of this situation with a positive result) and tries to get all the responsibility about this mistake to herself (her future career of Politian would be in a very, very bad position);
*Toori appears and makes the situation gets a little better? by saying that this was a fake Masazumi;
*Maeda falls in the first little trap made by Masazumi -> He entered Yoshitsune’s territory without her consent;
*Maeda uses the power of the Testament Union and says that he’ll start attacking Musashi (for disobeying their orders, being a threat) and Yoshitsune’s forces.
*Yoshitsune accepts that and even say that they can recreate the Battle of Nagashino too;
*In the end she gives more hints about the Apocalypse (like an Academy that nobody knows);
*Sanada ninjas betray Musashi and go away -> flag of a lot of future battles;
*Musashi gets covered be her forces;
*P.A.ODA uses that once more. Nobody thought that they would have one more “Dragon Pulse Reactor”. What happens? Yoshitsune dies... -> Not confirmed, but… FFFU(ry
*Nobody tells Toori about this;
*Hashiba Toukichirou Hideyoshi (a girl?) appears with a ship of the same class as Musashi, called Azuchi. In the ship there was she and more ten people, the “Ten spears”.
*She says that she’ll help in the recreation of the Battle of Mikatagahara and already starts the “Bunroku no Eki”. She can do that because the Testament Union is under their control and because Satomi’s most important members are in Musashi;
*That’s why she says that the person who has the name of Naruse Masayoshi must die;
*Marga decides to go together with Margot, but Yoshiyori declares himself as the Naruse Masayoshi and goes;
*Yoshiyasu discovers the truth about her sister’s death and what he was trying to do all along (remember before the Battle against HF? This was his objective all along);
*First time that we see a desperate Toori -> trying to stop him;
*He says a very important thing to Toori before going (Rough translation):
“Let me say. You have to laugh at the future battles that are to come!
From now on, no matter what losses there are, no matter if it’s something to cry, just you have to laugh.
You have to laugh at the ones like me, even if all the others around you are crying, if you can still fight, then you have to laugh!
No matter what happens from now on, you have to laugh….!
Save people like me and her!”
*He goes;
*He dies;
*Everybody gets worried with Toori, but he says that he can’t cry anymore because of what Yoshiyori said -> ;________;
*Hashiba confirms his death and the Battle is finally over. A complete defeat to Musashi.
Consequences and conclusions:
*Musashi finally arrives around Mikawa’s region and gets the help from the people from “Ariake”/Kantou IZUMO;
*Suzu who was in the command room all the time rushed to the place everyone was. She trusted them, but was worried that they could have lost the power to fight, to hasten, to protect. But when she got there with the help of Toori and Horizon, she saw that this wasn’t the case. That everything was fine. And she thought, what would happen if they get the power to fight, to hasten, to protect? In the end, Marga was going to draw a picture of everyone, just like Matsudaira did when he lost in the Battle of Mikatagahara and reflected upon it. After she started drawing:
“Everyone is with a good face,”
Yes. That’s why
“Next time, those who are going to move the history are us.”
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thank you sir for an extensive spoiler
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