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Ah, hello everyone, as you can see I'm new here but I have been reading this thread for these few days. Sorry to butt in like this, but I just have to post.

asam_laksa, do you know what's the title of that radio's programme? The only Bleach-related radio programme I know is Bleach B Station, mc-ed by Masakazu Morita (Ichigo's seiyuu). That interview is not possible to be a Bleach B Station because if it is, Morita would be there. It would be an interview between Morita and Kubo, not Kubo and Inoue's seiyuu (so far, in that programme, there's no such thing as three person at the same time).

I'm just curious, out of all seiyuus, why Inoue's seiyuu was chosen to interview Kubo. So far it was and always been Morita. I also never heard of such thing as 'a mangaka appeared and being interviewed in radio' For a change as big as this, and an interview as important as this, how could there be no records? Even Bleach B Station have D:

I would like to hear that interview. I always like to hear any Bleach related shows/interviews xD

But do you really think Kubo, as a mangaka, would say something like, "this character will become the next main lead" Come on, even harem game/anime (which have tons heroines) have their fixed-unchangeable-main heroine. "Being important/become the next focus" doesn't mean "main lead status gained" Changing the main hero/heroine of the show will confuse and disappoint most people. (and what do we have in the last poll? People want moar Rukia!!)

And I don't think Japanese would care about the main hero/heroine thing, it's already too obvious to them, even people who never read Bleach would understand that the main characters are Ichigo and Rukia. Makes me remember that in Soul Sonic 2005 there's this one fan-letter that said, "My mother couldn't remember other character's name except Ichigo and Rukia."

Wew, sorry for being a bit off topic, let's go back to it.

Btw... IchiKiai? Ichigo x Rukia = Ai (love)? I know you are a closet IchiRuki fan! Fufufu.
I have something to confess too, IchiHime sounds gay to me because it could be translated as Princess Ichi.

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

I don't know if anyone has ever read the pilot chapter for Bleach but... Ichigo is in love with Orihime in it, and Rukia teases Ichigo about it., even trying to tell Inoue about it. Also, there was something really interesting... Ichigo was about to confess to Orihime, but she stops him and say, that when she's going to be reborn again, and when that happens, they'll meet again, and then they can talk about it. In case you guys are confused, Inoue died in this chapter, but at the end she stuck around as a spirit with Rukia.

If I was IchiOri fan, I would choke Kubo to death. Because you know what? He erased the whole flashback of *embarassed*-*scratchs head*-should-I-tell-her-or-not-"Don't be sad, Inoue" and make Ichigo a total dummy who didn't recognize her until just recently at the beginning of current Bleach (which means he never comfort her like in pilot). It's a real downplay to IchiOri side, don't you think?

Originally Posted by asam_laksa

Like I said, people want to see what they like believe, more like like to believe what they want to believe. Rukia eats meat from Ichigo's hand a subtle indication of IchiKiai love. But getting from a few Japanese who overheard the conversation between Kubo Tite and Orihime's seiyuu is a smoke screen indeed.

Of course people want to see what they like/believe, why would they want to see something they don't like/believe. I watch Bleach because I like it. I don't watch Naruto because I don't like it. As simple as that. It's just a matter of 'accepting' if somehow you didn't get to see what you want.

Sometimes I thought about making "I survived HM Arc!" shirt.

I understand Warchef's opinion, sometimes even the most trustful person could get wrong information. Who knows? If what everyone's saying is true, we don't need police, lawyer and judge.

Is it wrong to have joy from color spreads? It's drawn by Kubo, it's something that every Bleach readers would see, it's canon. I don't think you should compare it with one interview that only known by one or two person.

Originally Posted by asam_laksa

I asked before, what kind of sadness and tragedy expected from the IchiKiai fans in regards to IchiKiai pairing, and the type of sadness and tragedy expected from the IchiHime fans in regards to IchiHime pairing.

Eh? It's already happened.
Sadness/tragedy --> Remember when Rukia was brought back to Soul Society? Don't you see how sad, broken and hopeless Ichigo was?
Bittersweet --> Their separation in Soul Society.

They already went through a lot of things, as much as I love sad endings, I hope they would have their own happy ending.

Originally Posted by asam_laksa

If you were Kubo Tite, how are you going to swing the tide to IchiKiai's side, if supposedly your OTP is IchiKiai pairing? Ichigo brandishing his sword wildly, protecting Rukia all the time? You must have a reason for the enemies targeting Rukia first.

I prefer to see them fighting side by side/back to back, which was 100% approved by Kubo in second movie, and also 100% approved by current filler animators.

Originally Posted by asam_laksa

edit:: yep....I'm being very nitpicker in matters like this.

Spoiler for .:

A Rukia figurine, claimed by her fans to be taken from the chapter 196's chapter, the 'cheer'.

Is her heart right in the middle or towards to her left's side?

Pointing towards her heart indeed.

Sorry to bring up old topic, but I'm also nitpicky about this (what's with the small-blurry photo of Rukia and perfectly token photo of Inoue? =_+)

Spoiler for figurine close up:

And yes, she's pointing to her heart indeed.

Originally Posted by asam_laksa

...unlike your Rukia's 'man-in-my-heart' speech which is sold together with other Bleach characters in a boxset.

...yet the most rare figurine from all of six. I found none in all anime/toy/figurine shops I have entered, it's always sold-out while others (Ichigo, Rangiku, etc) stacks like crazy. I have to order for mine. Not just this figurine, all Rukia-related merchandise never last long, it's freaking hard to just get one.

And for the sake of answering the question of this thread... Ichigo and Rukia for sure.

Spoiler for it's long...:

- The way Kubo portray them as the opposite of each other (and went as far as paralleling their past: Memories in the Rain 1 & 2; even for SOULs and VIBEs covers, eye to eye facing each other, black-white, orange-purple, even the continuous poem, it's one of the most romantic covers I have ever seen) definitely means something.

- Chapter 00a and 00b, the sand and the gear.

- The spread from SOULs, "One man, one shinigami, the story of destiny begins"

- The beginning of SS Arc,
"What kind of joke is this?! Oi! Look at me and talk!" ~Ichigo
"Don't move! ...Just try to move an inch from there... Just try to chase after me... I... I will... I will NEVER forgive you! ................Eventually you will die... so just lie there and try to live even just a little bit longer." ~Rukia
"I can't move... I can't speak... I was protected again... Rukia... AAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!" ~Ichigo

- The whole SS Arc,
"I'm going to save Rukia!"
"How many taichou? How many fukutaichou? Doesn't matter, I will beat them all if they get in my way!"
"It's not that I want to save her, I HAVE to save her!"
"I knew already, Rukia is going to die because of me, that's why I have to save her!"
"I swore to my soul!"
"I come to save you, Rukia."
"Why you only save me?! Why don't you save Rukia instead?"
"I don't want to hear that it's impossible."
"This is the second time, and this time for sure, I came to save you, Rukia."
"I wouldn't let you say that line in front of Rukia again."
"I will beat you and make you beg forgiveness from her."
"Seems like that pride have something to do with Rukia's execution, if that so then I will use all my power to crush that pride. That's the very reason why I gained this power in my hand."
~Ichigo

"Is it really you, Ichigo?"
"Fool, I told you not to come, now you're hurt all over."
"Sayonara..."
~Rukia.

- The whole chapter of "And the Rain Left Off" (chp 181)
"Thank you Ichigo."
"That's my line. Thank you Rukia, thanks to you finally the rain left off."
Not to forget the said chapter's draft was featured in All Colour But Black.

- "That's the kind of man you have been in my heart, Ichigo"

- The whole Rukia got attacked by Grimjoww,
"Come down here, the fight is not settled yet!!"
"I'm lost"
"Don't lie to me, if you're on my shoes you wouldn't say that."
~Ichigo.

"What's with that face? Don't tell me that you feel responsible for my injury? Don't be so full of yourself. My own injury is my own fault."
"If it's about your hollow, how about talk to Urahara?"
~Rukia.
Sasuga Rukia... you know exactly what Ichigo is thinking...

- Chp 247 and 248, the nakama speech and "Let's split," from Rukia yet answered by "What the hell are you talking about?!" by Ichigo. Fufufu, even Byakuya is not as protective.

- "I'm going to save Rukia," from Ichigo... in the arc when he was supposed to save someone else.

- When Ichigo fights Grimjoww, the way he said that Ichigo comes to HM to fight him because he injured his '(insert girl here)friend'.

Spoiler for From other sources than manga::

- Bleach Novel Honey Dish Rhapsody... (yes it was written by someone else, but Kubo approved it himself) ...the way Ichigo knew that Rukia wanted to make dish for Byakuya... the way Ichigo went to Yoruichi (almost killed by Soi Fon in process) to ask for some ruu (curry's flour) --> because Rukia asked so... the way Ichigo offered her some help (but refused because she wants to make it herself)... the way Ichigo comforted her saying that no matter what she make, Byakuya, as a brother, would surely eat it (while remembering he always do so with whatever Yuzu cooked for him)... the way Ichigo offered that she could share the curry with 11th division (because Byakuya couldn't eat it) as gratitute for their help during Rukia's execution... the way he took the whole pot of curry to 11th division, trying hard to convince everyone that it's edible and delicious (SS people didn't know curry) and not to forget he always said, "Rukia cooked it," ...last and my fav... the way he offered to wash her dishes while she dozed off on the chair, it stated that he feels glad that he came to Soul Society because he's able to protect (note that the 'protect' was written in 'go/護' from 'ichigo/一護' not the usual 'protect' kanji like 'mamoru/守る')

- Not to forget the whole Bleach Musicals. IchiRuki duet anyone? (and not just once)

- Speaking of duet, they have official duet of Memories in the Rain by Morita Masakazu and Orikasa Fumiko with lyrics written by Kubo...

- Anime? A lot of IchiRuki centric OP-ED, and filler IchiRuki moments. OVA? Movie? For the second movie, from what I know, even Japanese IchiRuki fans thought that Rukia is so noisy, "Ichigo, Ichigo" while Ichigo also, "Rukia, Rukia." Even merchandises (figurines, posters, keychains, etc) most of time features Ichigo and Rukia together, even for non-pairing wise

Uuh, sorry, I didn't plan to post so long, but I think it's just prove that there's so much things and hints about Ichigo and Rukia, so IchiRuki it is.