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Originally Posted by itachi-san314
i wish obito had just gone legitimately crazy and there wasn't any hope of redemption and he was just a homicidal psycho. that would have been much better
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The homicidal maniac card with Obito/Tobi is a very poor justification of his actions, everything he did had a purpose, all of them don't include baseless violence. He has his reasons reasons for plunging the world into war. Making it so that he just did it to kill people is pants-on-head retarded and it'd be a less believable reason for starting all that crap as well, he wanted bring Rin back in the IT and bring about faux-peace to the world, not satisfy psychotic rages; serial killer excuse is a no-go.
Obito and Madara are just well-intentioned extremists, you just aren't going to get irredeemable antagonists in this series.
Orochimaru is the closest but he isn't there (Maybe he will though, who knows?).