Thread: Crunchyroll Oda Nobuna no Yabō
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Old 2012-07-19, 17:54   Link #220
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Originally Posted by blakstealth View Post
Pretty informative comparison pic. Sorry if old.

Spoiler:

Just realized a minor mistake (sort of)


Goeman is not just Ishikawa Goeman, base on her full name, Hachisuka Goeman, in the series, and being Hideyoshi's ally and friend, She is more likely being Hachisuka Masakatsu(also known as Hachisuka Koroku). He later changed his name to Hachisuka Hikoemon after gaining prominence. He was the leader of a group of Kokujin (kind like rogue militia/peasants) in Owari boarder and the earliest retainer who works directly under Hedeyoshi. Popular culture has him either being a ninja or bandits.

Ishikawa Goeman on the other hand is a well-known thief whose origin are believed to be Iga region, therefore was also believe to be an Iga ninja.

Unlike Koga nijas, A good number of Iga ninja clans was obliterated due to their rebellion against Nobunaga with only few survived, most of whom already left the region before the attack such as Hattori Hanzo or sworn royalty prior the attack.

Ishikawa Goeman was believe to have at least attempted to assassinate both Nobunaga and Hedeyoshi at least once. He was ultimately captured by Hedeyoshi and executed publicly along with his family. The detail of his capture and execution was debated, but the one constant was that he was boiled to death in an cauldron.

That being said I doubt the Nobuna Goeman is based on Ishikawa Goeman unless it is a hint that she will ends up a traitor. Personally I think the writer is just playing on word of Hikoemon and change to Goeman to strengthen the ninja/thief personality of her character.



EDIT:

BTW, the two game series that was mentioned/parodied in episode 2 were Taiko Risshiden series and Uncharted Waters(Dai-Kokai Jidai) series both are sandbox style RPG with some turn-based battle elements that allow incredible freedom for players. Taiko Risshiden is game with Hideyoshi as main character though newer games in series allow you to play as other historical figure from Nobunaga lessor samurai (think of Romance of Three Kingdom VII,VII, and X, but with more RPG freedom with less emphasis on battle).

Uncharted Waters(Dai-Kokai Jidai) series is based on Age of Discovery, kind of like Sid Mier's Pirate. You need to grow your trading business, and you either be a good little business trader or turn into a pirate with huge fleet.

Both are great, great series, that too bad has had a new true sequel for over 6 years now.


Gameshots from Taiko Risshiden V:

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Gameshots from Uncharted Waters IV:

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Last edited by Undertaker; 2012-07-19 at 19:04. Reason: Games mentioned in EP2
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