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Originally Posted by Patchwork Chimera

Yes, the gold was blown up but 10 t of heavy metal would scatter, not dissapear.

I think that if the gold is as close to the explosive as it seems, the explosion could melt it... and make crumble on it all that was above it (the room of the gold seems to be under the ground) so to recover it... you should probably open a mine.

Originally Posted by Patchwork Chimera

But about the serial killing, if Our Confessions is a general sketch to create the gameboards, Yasu's plans were naive and that's why everything went boom on her face... hum... probably

It's way too naive. Yasu would have better chances at cooperation if she were to suggest them to play an halloween game to please Maria than with trying to bribe people in that way.

Originally Posted by Renall

There's no reason to trust Beatrice, ever. The only reason anyone goes along with it in the stories is because the author wants them to. The rationale provided is basically as flimsy as possible without being nonexistent.

Definitely the whole blackmail thing is poorly done.

There's plenty of people that go along when blackmailed in the world, but the setting presented is terribly unconvincing.
The Ushiromiya aren't being blackmailed by a criminal gang that's keeping a gun pointed against Jessica's head in some secret hideout while observing every single move they do.

Hell, the blackmailing looks almost like a magic scene in it's implausibility.

A Shannon with a gun in a Beatrice dress doesn't look as an adversary you can't overcome and all they do to avoid the explosive is escape. That's true they might lose the money but they have no proof Shannon really converted the gold in cash.
Actually it's not so easy to do it since among the siblings the only one who could do it was Krauss.

Originally Posted by Renall

Worse, he claims in Legend or somewhere that he's had the island surveyed. Not only would this assure that the surveying crew found the place, airplanes existed in 1986 and the surveyors would almost certainly have used one. There's nothing anywhere in Banquet which suggests it can't be seen from the air, and the large fence would also stick out like a sore thumb.

Basically there's no way Krauss couldn't know. And if Rosa can get there and back, it's possible on foot.

That discounts for a moment the point that one could just go in that general direction even not knowing if one is going to reach Kuwadorian. If you know there's explosives, you know she can't move them, and if you just run off into the woods you might get lost but you could probably walk to safety (somewhere outside the blast radius) faster than she could stop you.

The entire plan revolves around the accomplices behaving according to the plan when they're not being monitored by Beatrice directly. All they have to do is lie until Beatrice is out of sight, and just grab everybody and book it for the forest.

Exactly. Their obedience to her orders seems to imply they wanted Beato to kill the others.

Originally Posted by Patchwork Chimera

About reversing the tables on Beato and accomplices: Beatrice has a gun, but Krauss has mad boxing skills and enough hot blood to use them if a situation like that arose, so is possible for him to disarm her... but not to point the barrel her way. He'd try to reach a gentleman's deal XD I shudder if she tried to sway Eva with those tactics... and let's not talk about yakuza princess Kyrie.
There was a point about Yasu having a weak body, so is not too farfetched that someone overpowered her and, depending on the sibling in case, blew her head and went with the original plan. So actually Yasu imagining that pointing a gun to the fierce sons or daughters of Kinzo was going to get those results (absolute obedience of an accomplice) was too naive. Maybe that's what ignited the clusterfuck in RokkenPrime? Yasu was dreaming gameboards too hard to realize exactly who she was fucking around with and things went downside... sounds more plausible that the siblings devotedly going along with her just because she had a gun or the promise of some bomb that could be avoided if all ran to the forest with all their might still they reached the other shore (even if they didn't find kuwadorian, they could go to somwhere as far of the main house as Kuwadorian).

That's another of the reasons for which I prefer to think that in Prime Yasu didn't try anything as such. It can work in a (poorly written) fanfic but in the real world, unless people are too dumb, too coward or like the idea of Beato murdering someone, no one would play along. At least not if things went as presented.

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

I'm not sure if Krauss actually had that mad boxing skills, that's probably an embellishment.
But the point is that he didn't need to confront an armed Beatrice at all. Because beatrice's plan involves herself to play as her normal self in front of Battler, there were like a shitton of chances for any accomplice to ovewpower her without any risk involved throughout the many episodes.

Well, it's probably an embellishment but he likely had some boxing skills. And anyway he's a man and stronger than Yasu. He can overpower her even without mad boxing skills.