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Sol Falling · 2008-04-19, 09:04

I'm gonna throw something in here about what's been said about Lelouch being willing to 'stop' along his path for the sake of Euphie/Nunally, but Suzaku not being able to.

Here's a question. What is the ultimate goal of these two characters? What are they fighting for?

Lelouch has recognized, he knows that what he's doing is for selfish purposes. He wants revenge for his own sake. He wants a kind world for Nunally's sake. Like he told Suzaku, 'the world' (more like his world, really) does not revolve around ideals. Lelouch is personally attached, and has emotional investments, in all his goals. That is why Euphie is able to prevail over him; she pit his two emotional investments against each other, and the kinder one won.

This isn't the case for Suzaku though. Although Lelouch and Suzaku are parallels in that they are both pushed onto the paths they are taking, in that they don't have any other choice than to act as they do, their motivations are entirely different. Suzaku is driven ideologically. All of Suzaku's actions are taken with an intent beyond his own personal best interests, beyond his personal well being. While Lelouch is willing to make others suffer to achieve his revenge, Suzaku is willing to make himself suffer for the sake of others' happiness. All of Suzaku's actions are taken with the best interests of the Japanese people, and of good people in general, in mind. At the very least, in his mind.

So if Suzaku is fighting for an ideal beyond himself, why would he stop? Why would he give up? Suzaku is pursuing, the only way he knows how, what he sees as the ultimate good. This is something that he is willing to die for. Given that conviction, why would any kind of personal interest or emotion convince him to stop?

Now I'm not saying that Suzaku is right. Nobody knows that yet, and we probably will never get to find out since Code Geass is Lelouch's story. But similarly, we don't know for sure that Lelouch is right either. So I've just gotta ask, when you can't know what is right or wrong in the world of Code Geass...how can so many people hate Suzaku for doing what he believes in? Really. If you consider Suzaku's history and the life he's lived so far, it makes perfect sense how he could come to hold the convictions that he does.

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Sol Falling Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	I'm gonna throw something in here about what's been said about Lelouch being willing to 'stop' along his path for the sake of Euphie/Nunally, but Suzaku not being able to. Here's a question. What is the ultimate goal of these two characters? What are they fighting for? Lelouch has recognized, he knows that what he's doing is for selfish purposes. He wants revenge for his own sake. He wants a kind world for Nunally's sake. Like he told Suzaku, 'the world' (more like his world, really) does not revolve around ideals. Lelouch is personally attached, and has emotional investments, in all his goals. That is why Euphie is able to prevail over him; she pit his two emotional investments against each other, and the kinder one won. This isn't the case for Suzaku though. Although Lelouch and Suzaku are parallels in that they are both pushed onto the paths they are taking, in that they don't have any other choice than to act as they do, their motivations are entirely different. Suzaku is driven ideologically. All of Suzaku's actions are taken with an intent beyond his own personal best interests, beyond his personal well being. While Lelouch is willing to make others suffer to achieve his revenge, Suzaku is willing to make himself suffer for the sake of others' happiness. All of Suzaku's actions are taken with the best interests of the Japanese people, and of good people in general, in mind. At the very least, in his mind. So if Suzaku is fighting for an ideal beyond himself, why would he stop? Why would he give up? Suzaku is pursuing, the only way he knows how, what he sees as the ultimate good. This is something that he is willing to die for. Given that conviction, why would any kind of personal interest or emotion convince him to stop? Now I'm not saying that Suzaku is right. Nobody knows that yet, and we probably will never get to find out since Code Geass is Lelouch's story. But similarly, we don't know for sure that Lelouch is right either. So I've just gotta ask, when you can't know what is right or wrong in the world of Code Geass...how can so many people hate Suzaku for doing what he believes in? Really. If you consider Suzaku's history and the life he's lived so far, it makes perfect sense how he could come to hold the convictions that he does.