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Old 2012-02-20, 10:34   Link #59
ronin myael
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Originally Posted by Captain Commando View Post
From my understanding, he is a ninja seeking justice, and going about it the wrong way :/

Nagato's story has shown us that ninjas in the current system have been on this back and forth vengeance cycle for over a hundred years. Sasuke is nothing new, unique, or special in that regard. If you can understand Nagato, or any of the other ninjas waging war or vendettas, Sasuke's character really shouldn't pose a problem.

Except the circumstances aren't that simple. All his life, people around him have been lying to him, about events which he has no way of knowing, except from the very sources giving him that false information. His circumstances are actually similar to mind control/conditioning methods where a young child is exposed to some kind of traumatic event and is conditioned to think/act the way the handler desires them to.

What was he responsible for that he placed blame on others?

Its pretty difficult to understand what really happened if everyone is lying :/
When he confronted Itachi, he actually questioned him about various details, and was still lied to with some truth mixed in, making things even more confusing. Even if he questioned the elders and Danzou during that time, they would have still lied to him as well.

I don't know how you presume to know what he felt deep down, however he didn't take everything at face value. (e.g. he even questioned Danzou, asking him if he was indeed involved with the killings before attacking him)

The ninja system is probably mostly to blame, considering all the secrets, lies, and collusions going on, we should expect some of these kids to come out like this. Nagato had similar circumstances, worse in-fact, but the many years of horrible experiences and social conditioning were somehow put aside after listening to a speech. Now thats something I find strange, not Sasuke's character, imho.
i don't understand nagato's character either, and worse when kishi made him change his mind after having encountered talk no jutsu. but personality-wise, sasuke is by far the more resourceful and bolder one. he's the leader-type not a follower like nagato was. it was really yahiko who was more of a leader. nagato was more prone to manipulation. not to mention he has experienced far worse violence and injustice than sasuke could even imagine. even gaara had it worse than him but he still turned out to be the more level-headed one. i found that strange too.

the only person who lied to sasuke was itachi when he claimed that he killed the uchiha because of some power trip. the truth was kept from him. talking about the uchiha's demise was taboo. not once did we see him asking questions. i doubt even the sandaime talked openly about it or would have lied to sasuke if he had bothered to ask. but that part i understand. he was a kid. but after having sealed oro and forming a team of his own, he was no longer the same helpless kid from konoha. he had power and resources he could have used to gain some info about itachi. if i were him i would have suspected that itachi worked with another. as powerful as itachi was, he could not take on all of the uchiha at once and sasuke should have realized this. he would have found tobi/madara much earlier if he had.

the guy killed his own brother! the brother who did nothing but to protect him. he hated him for the wrong reasons for a very long time. if i had been in his place i would have blamed myself as well. i would have hated myself for not knowing the truth, for not trying to find out what really transpired that night at least. what he saw was a slew of dead bodies, he didn't exactly see itachi killing them did he? and he himself admitted that he saw itachi crying and deep down he doubted whether his brother really was the monster he claimed to be. but he ignored it, thinking he imagined it. i would have blamed myself for that. but there was no regret in sasuke even after he found out the truth. there was only hate for those he thought were responsible. even his tears were full of hate not remorse or sadness.

the character is driven by hate, which is not that uncommon among the so-called anti-heroes in naruto. nagato and gaara would make better villains/anti-heroes if all that motivates him is revenge and hatred. he solely exists to be saved by naruto, just like nagato and gaara was. having all that melodramatic back story is kind of useless in my opinion. so what makes him so special save the fact that kishi handpicked him to become one of naruto's endgame opponents? oh well, i'm probably biased against the guy. i never liked him, i could never relate to him and i think his character is pretty useless at this point. but that's just me.
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