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Old 2006-07-03, 05:02   Link #1016
gammaoh
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Originally Posted by WeaponZero
Thanks a million man appreciated, that pretty much cleared everything up lol. But still 1 question so basically the whole show was kind of sabers dream? Like Shirou and all that was made up by her dream is what I'm understanding?Also I thought she like wanted to destroy the grail so she could redo the selection of the king not kill herself to go to utopia =\.Also H scenes meaning hentai, 80 of them? I also read that its coming out for
ps2 is that an rpg or like a novel where you make choices. ANd whats all this shirou is archer UBW things
Well, I'll try to answer that properly.

Usually, when you become a Heroic Spirit ergo a Spirit that can be summoned as a Servant during an Heaven's Feel (=Grail War with the Servant system), you have already died and your soul rests in the Throne of Heroes which is an alternate timeline. Each time you're summoned, a copy of your soul is sent so that the original soul won't be contaminated by anything it can learn during its life as a Servant, thus forgetting everything once dematerializing.

But in Arturia's case, she wished before dying to become a Heroic Spirit to be able to get her hands on the Grail and redo the selection of the king. Since she is still alive, as Kotomine said "locked in the transmigration process" or if you prefer between life and death, the original soul is sent out each time she is summoned. Hence the fact that she retains all her memories from her previous summoning and the fact that it felt like a dream to her.

Be sure that this was no dream at all. And you can even consider this in a metaphoric point of view: what she experienced was so wonderful that it was like a dream. And you see she's really willing to continue the dream.

Now, she came back and chose to die/go to Avalon instead of redoing the selection of the king. Why you ask. Simply because she had many conversations with Shirou concerning this point and in episode 22, she realizes that redoing the selection was wrong after what she sacrificed. Shirou wanted her to understand that as a king, she did not fail and kept her oath. As she realized it herself: it's the country which didn't protect the king. Gilgamesh's words to Saber are also a very hard teaching for her: he shows her that even with all his arrogance, he managed to grasp the moment he was not needed anymore and left. Whereas she couldn't do that, and stayed... hence being destroyed by her country.

H-scenes are very few, 5-6 scenes throughout the entire game which takes approximately 80h to finish.

The PS2 version is pretty much like the PC version except that the entire game will be voiced, there will not be any H-content and there is an extra route to be added.


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Originally Posted by dreamercross
In episode 11,why wasn't Rider able to kill Shirou with her blade?
Shirou, at that point, unvolontarily imaged something that allowed his body to be as hard as steel. It's a secondary effect of Imaging. You see more of that in Heaven's Feel where Shirou images Berserker's strenght to fight him and kill him 9 times over in a few seconds.
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