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Old 2011-02-23, 03:22   Link #12130
SaintessHeart
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Originally Posted by Jinto View Post
I could see this happening, once the western military engagement in Afghanistan is over.
Not so fast. The Russians couldn't wax the mujahideen in 10 years, and now the US has to clean the place up squeaky clean or the terror networks will manifest again.

The Afghans don't have a central government capable enough to hold against the terrorists on their own. The ISAF would probably stay there as long as they did in Vietnam.

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Obama faces pressure to intervene in Libya

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(Reuters) - Pressure mounted on the White House on Tuesday to intervene to stop Muammar Gaddafi's bloody crackdown on democracy protests as a lawmaker close to President Barack Obama urged oil firms to halt work in Libya.

The United States faced calls to impose sanctions but also to take direct action such as bombing Libyan airfields and imposing no-fly zones -- military steps that most analysts consider unlikely. Some critics questioned Obama's silence on the violence in which hundreds of Libyans have died.

U.S. officials called for an end to the violence but seemed to rule out any unilateral action, stressing the United States was working with other countries on a way forward.

Senator John Kerry, the influential chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, urged the White House to consider reimposing tough sanctions on Libya.

"World leaders must together put Colonel Gaddafi on notice that his cowardly actions will have consequences," Kerry said.

The White House said it was studying Kerry's proposal to reimpose sanctions that were lifted by the Bush administration but, for now, was focused on ending the bloodshed, which sent U.S. oil prices to near 2-1/2-year highs.

Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Kerry's Republican counterpart in the House of Representatives, said the United States and others "should impose economic sanctions, including freezing assets of the regime and imposing a ban on travel."

Obama did not mention Libya when he spoke about small business at a university in Ohio -- in contrast to his German counterpart Angela Merkel, who said she would back sanctions if Gaddafi did not halt the violence.

Obama's administration has been struggling to keep up with the wave of popular uprisings unfolding across the Middle East and North Africa. Each country has presented its own challenges for Washington, which has seen its decades-old Middle East policy upended in a matter of weeks.

Obama spoke out about violence against protesters in Tunisia, Egypt and Bahrain but some analysts saw his silence on Libya as a deliberate tactic.

"Getting into a spitting match with Gaddafi would not be such a smart idea," said Daniel Serwer of Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies. "This guy obviously enjoys the attention so ignoring him may have some virtue."

LIMITED OPTIONS

U.S. options to influence events in Libya are limited, unlike in Egypt and Bahrain where Washington was able to bring pressure to bear as a long-time ally and benefactor. U.S. foreign aid to Libya was less than $1 million in 2010.

Military action does not appear to be on the table, although the United States has not shied from the use of force against Gaddafi in the past. It bombed Tripoli and Libya's second city, Benghazi, in 1986 in retaliation for an attack on a West Berlin disco used by U.S. military personnel.

"There is absolutely no talk of military intervention," said Daniel Byman of the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We don't know the opposition and it is not clear that they would be on our side."

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeated her call to stop the bloodshed. Asked whether Washington was prepared to go beyond condemnation, Clinton said officials were working with the international community to decide on "appropriate" action.

Clinton hinted that the cautious response so far might be linked to concerns about the safety of U.S. citizens in Libya.

The State Department said it had chartered a ferry that would depart central Tripoli on Wednesday. It said U.S. citizens would be processed on a first-come, first-served basis with priority given to people with medical emergencies.

Earlier on Tuesday the department said it had been unable to move any of its diplomats and embassy family members out of Libya. The ferry plan appeared to be an acceleration of U.S. efforts to evacuate as plans had originally been to put Americans on scheduled flights.

Anti-Gaddafi protesters gathered outside the White House chanting "White House where are you? Libya now needs you."

Senators John McCain and Joseph Lieberman backed the idea of a no-fly zone as one of the measures that could be taken by the United States, the European Union and the African Union.

U.S. COMPANIES IN LIBYA

Kerry said, beyond possible U.S. sanctions, that energy companies should take action as well.

"All American and international oil companies should immediately cease operations in Libya until violence against civilians ceases," he said in a statement.

Italy's Eni said it halted output in Libya, which is Italy's biggest oil supplier. A number of companies including BP, Royal Dutch Shell and Suncor Energy Inc said they were pulling out staff but had not confirmed any impact on production.

Among U.S. companies, Marathon Oil and Occidental Petroleum said production in Libya continued.

After an estrangement of decades, largely because of Libya's support for militants, the United States gradually began to improve ties following Gaddafi's decision in late 2003 to give up Libya's weapons of mass destruction programs.

U.S. economic sanctions were progressively removed after Libya agreed to accept civil responsibility for the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Scotland in 1988.
The political analyst just won the internets with that jarring no-holds barred statement.

Actually there might be a solution. Send in a NATO formation of firefighters and medics as "disaster relief" : it may not solve the political issue at hand, but it will definitely work in the favour of everyone because it is a neutral aid party under the UN convention. Provided the Libyan Mirage F1s don't drop iron bombs on them.

And fuck John Kerry. This is a good time to make friends and he wants to impose sanctions? Where does this nut get his analyst team from?
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