It's really nothing, it just happen that I'm also into history especially in Chinese Three Kingdoms and Japanese Sengoku and being Chinese I was able to read some of more detail books on those period and even the actual historical text themselves. It's also interesting to read some book by western historian because sometimes they have different take on things compare to Eastern historians.
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Originally Posted by aigomorla
oh wow can someone tell me whose correct?
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I did mention in the summaries I made that I wasn't entirely clear, and the stuff I put in parenthesis are mostly my educated guesses on what exactly happened. Either way, take it with a grain of salt. It's possible that the anime cut stuff out (Hanbei's uncle wasn't all that important even in vol 2, and that's pretty much the only volume he shows up), but it's also very possible that I just screwed up when I was reading. I did repeatedly post disclaimers on my frankly somewhat disappointing Chinese skills...
Yes, Hanbei became Sagara's direct subordinate/retainer rather than swearing herself to Nobuna. In future volumes, you'll always see Hanbei acting as Sagara's strategist/tactician, while Niwa and Juubei fulfills that role for Nobuna.
I'm sure Sagara has non-loli retainers. Like... Um... Huh... Never mind, I guess they are all lolis...
But non-lolis have fallen for Sagara... In fact, of the people who have definitely without a doubt fallen for Sagara, the only loli in there is Hanbei. Neither Goemon or Inuchiyo have explicitly displayed feelings beyond platonic friendship and loyalty. Of the ones, that have definitely fallen for Sagara, the only ones I've seen as of vol 5 are Nobuna, Juubei, and Hanbei.
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Mechatrill was correct that in LV, they gave up the castle to save Hanbei's uncle, Andou Morinari.
In history, Andou was an important Satou retainer, he along with Ujiie Naotomo and Inaba Yoshimichi(Ittetsu) were collectively referred as Nishi Mino Sanninshū (Western Mino Triumvirate) and was entrust with the western half of Mino. He is also Hanbei's father-in-law. (hence the 'uncle' relation in LV)
That being said, he was probably the least accomplished of the three, he was among the slew of exiles by Nobunaga of his old retainers a few years before his death. Those exiles were baffling in history due to the fact that the reasons for their exiles were peculiar and ambiguous at best. The only similarities were they all had high social standing within Oda clan and hasn't had any notable accomplishment or had character flaws. Popular theory is that it was part of Nobunaga's restructuring of Oda clan as well as setting future succession by getting rid of retainers who he see as talent-less yet influential and might stir up trouble.
After Nobunaga's death, Andou gathers up a force and tried to regain power and his social standing. The target he picked was his old friend Inaba Yoshimichi, he and his son were put down fairly quickly by Inaba and his clan was executed follow the loss with exception of his nephew to carry on the bloodline. Inaba went on to serve under Hideyoshi prior to Battle of Shizugatake and continues his successful military career.