[Jellal]

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Originally Posted by kitten320

Well that's the main thing, Jura and Jellal are seven years ahead of Laxus who didn't even have second origin open in him.

And as I said, if Laxus gives Jura hard time, Jura won't be able to put much of a fight so others can easily take him down.

Otherwise with such thinking FT is doomed anyway since there is still fresh Sting while everyone else are worn out.

Well, it's unclear whether Laxus had his second origin unlocked or not.
Most who trained aside from Team Natsu, its unknown what they gained, during those 3 months of training. If Laxus is near Gildartz level, as it's believed (Hades remark), one would think he would of long had it. Still, as Gildartz mentioned to natsu in the Tenrou arc, there still something Natsu needs to gain before he reaches the top of the magical world. Only weird thing, is that Erza clearly didn't have it and she's a FT S class.

Right now, I see it as Lightning vs Earth. Earth alone nullify's lightning right?
Meaning, Laxus needs to go melee entirely to decimate him or catch Jura offguard to use a nuke. Unless it turns out Jura is using stone armor, like in Gaara's case in naruto.

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Originally Posted by Casshern

The wizard saints aren't necessarily the 10 strongest in the world. Gildartz wasn't one pre-timeskip yet both Jura and Jose Porla were.

Also, iirc Jellal wasn't a match for Jura at the start of their fight because he was imitating Mystogan's magic. When he started using his own magic Jura was in trouble. I think Jellal is probably stronger than Jura.

I think the difference in power due to the timeskip is practically nullified at this point. It was only important immediately after the main cast returned and probably wont come into play again. Even Makarov wont be affected by the timeskip since he was already at his full power before it happened.

Not bothered with Jura ranking higher than Makarov. If Jura wrestles Acknologia with bare hands I'll be impressed

The title of saint is just an honorific in the world of Fiore. Something just to show respect, in terms of the wielders power or accomplishments. Anyone with S class level should easily have the title, given the right commendations. e.g. Erza when she 'died'.

I think your right on the TS. It was solely meant to advance everyone else, aside from FT - from their previous tiers to higher. At this point in time, I'm most curious about Ultears prominence. Aside from the whole gray fiasco, it's clear she's OP, given her skill set!

You have a good point regarding Makarov!Atm, I feel Jura is too hyped.
I just wish it ends in a draw. If Laxus ends up winning, it'll ruin every single power level scale to date. Making Laxus > than even Gildartz.