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Old 2012-04-20, 18:33   Link #28520
jjblue1
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Originally Posted by LyricalAura View Post
I honestly don't think this is very complicated.
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I agree with all you said.
The key point in that 'dead' problem is we've to figure out the solution that neither Shannon or Kanon are 'humans' in the way we define a human being normally (a single being who's the sole 'inhabitant' of his own, single body right from his birth and sole controller of it) a thing they, after all, admitted more than once saying many times they weren't humans, that they were furnitures and even that they served Beatrice.

And using the word 'dead' for an identity in a misleading manner isn't something exclusive of Umineko.
Plus Beato gave that red truth on Battler's prompting, repeating what he asked her to repeat... which is sort of funny in a fashion because he aknowledged that Shannon and Kanon were alive even through they were just 'Yasu's immaginary friends/personality/whatever'.
As he was the first to make the mistake of comparing them to humans it makes even harder to blame Beato for cheating.

To go back with the lightbulb example if Battler were to ask if the lightbulb and Beato's grandmother are dead she wouldn't be lying or cheating if she answered yes. It would be up to him to figure the lightbulb isn't a person, she isn't supposed to give him solutions.

She used misleading reds other times so it shouldn't come as a surprise.
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