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Originally Posted by joeboygo
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I wrote a long reply, and then the airport's wifi just cut me off.
Let me give you a short summery of my lost brilliant (
) respond to your ideas.
I disagree on both.
1. I saw everyone in this forum and beyond agree that this arc is two-layered mystery. One is in-movie, another is the outside. It's just that a lot decided to focus on the in-movie one first. By the time we reached episode 10, almost all of us were too focused on solving the in-movie mystery, which is indeed unsolvable, as noted by Houtarou at the end. All the evident are there for the outside one (Irisu's explanation, Eba's description of her friend, inconsistency problem in production, etc.) Some people actually did solve it before they see episode 11, from what I see around the web.
2. I had a discussion with FlareKnight ~page 2-3 about exactly that. I think we agreed that it would conflict Mayaka's personality to say the least. If she suspect that Irisu is lying, she will not wait any second saying so. She'll probably do it in her face actually.
My problem with what you presented is I don't see the connection between "know that Irisu only want Houtarou, not the whole club, to (supposedly) solve Hougou's mystery" and "know that Irisu is lying." They all know and realized the first, but that does not mean they know the second.
Tarot symbol, short version: Satoshi referred to Houtarou and Eru or Tomoe. Houtarou did not realized that, from a third person point of view, he is controlled by them. Once he realized that there are more than one way to look at things, he also realized that he should approach this mystery from another angle too, not just the one Irisu fed him.