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Originally Posted by 0utf0xZer0
Eh, the way I understand it, eroge covers all games with erotic content. Doesn't matter if it's a nukige, nakige, utsuge, moege (no seriously, it's a genre) or what have you. So yes, some are porn.
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I think you're basically right, but again it's all about definitions.
If you look at it from a classification perspective, a single explicit scene renders the work adults-only (rated 18+), and causes it to "contain pornography". If you say that "any work that contains pornographic content, I will label 'porn'", then yes, by that definition, all eroge are porn.
To some people, porn itself is indefensible. I recall, for example, the Vice City debacle where one single hidden explicit scene caused a major uproar that caused the work to pulled from shelves and widely demonified in the Western media. This in a game that contained copious violence, immorality, crime, and sleaze of all kinds (it's called "Vice City"), but one "adult scene" (that you weren't even supposed to be able to access) caused people to lose their freakin' minds.
So if you take that particular view of the situation, then all eroge is "porn". It doesn't matter how much story content or whatever else there is that give the work literary/artistic merit or whatever else.
But I don't think that's really the issue that the OP's "moron" is getting at. This isn't a slam of eroge, really. It's a slam of eroge
players. And I highly doubt the tone would change even if you were just talking about "visual novels" in general, or even just "otaku-centric games" (or anime, or whatever else). It's the good old "'otaku' are losers who need to get a life" argument, stemming from that commonly-held bully view that it's Right (TM) for people to live lives according to "accepted social norms" (with "socially-acceptable" interests, hobbies, and beliefs), and people who don't choose to do that deserve to be ostracised and shunned because they're not aligned with the groupthink. It's the same mentality that used to get "nerds" shoved into lockers in High School 20-30 years ago. Some people haven't grown up from that mentality.
The irony of all this is that the purported "moron" is on an anime forum. Even if this person thinks "90% of all anime sucks" and he only likes "the good anime", he's still partaking in a hobby that is not exactly considered socially-acceptable in most mainstream circles. Even less "participating on anime forums".
Anyway, all this to say: don't give bullies the time of day. They just want to feel big and powerful by making fun of people who are bigger "losers" than they think they are. But he's still wasting his time on an anime forum making fun of other anime fans, rather than "having a life" or spending time with his "real girlfriend". (I'm sure his childish forum bullying makes him seem like quite a catch in her eyes.) Perhaps the forum administration on that site should be encouraged to "help" this troubled soul stop "living a lonely and desperate life" on the forums and go back to the real world where he clearly thinks he belongs.