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Old 2012-10-06, 04:43   Link #4873
Obelisk ze Tormentor
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Originally Posted by Destined_Fate View Post
No I am not, ORB was an arrogant isolationist country that chided both sides and didn't bother to try and show the rest of humanity their way. They were content thinking they were hot stuff, building WMDs(Mobile Suits and Gundams), and the such. ORB seemed to feel very strongly against the War yet what did they do to try and end it? Nothing at all. The only ones that seemed to care are those that helped to secretly build the Gundams and even than their care was just for profits and not about the War.

ZAFT could have done far more than just power shortages, they had the means to strike back far harder than the nuking they had received. Instead they decided on the N-Jammers for humanities sake and to also cripple the Feds so that they would have less means to attack them. ZAFT didn't predict that the Feds were almost already lost to Logos/Blue Cosmos at that point who used this to foster a race war that ZAFT never wanted.

Yes it would, you are failing to understand my point. Had ORB allied with ZAFT after they were unjustly nuked than it would have shown that not all Naturals support the nuking and give a sign of unity against monstrous acts. Instead they again did nothing and left ZAFT to believe that all Naturals were jealous and wanted them dead. Of course it's natural since ORB loves to procrastinate and only cares to act when they're being invaded and it's too late.

That ORB motto fails considering that their leaders let the Feds invade them in SEED and ZAFT to invade them in Destiny. Both times ORB was reduced to ruins. Or the fact that ORB outright attacks ZAFT in Destiny with no protests at all and still attacked even when Cagalli showed up.

ORB are hypocrites and fools with too much pride and not enough brains. Considering what happened to everything else that had gone neutral and tried to pretend a War wasn't going on ORB's leaders were too stupid to figure out that if they kept doing what they were doing ZAFT or the Feds would invade them. Even when it happened ORB valued its foolish pride over its own people and sacrificed thousands, millions of dollars in mobile suits, their country, and so much more because they refused aid even though ZAFT coming to help would have saved ORB. Leaders such as ORBs are the worst kind that value their own pride over what is best for their people of humanity as a whole. What's worse is that all the somewhat competent Leaders died with their arrogant Leader and left only the power hungry ones behind to manipulate an unprepared Cagalli in Destiny.
Ok, now this is getting ridiculous. Your comments are so hell-bent on stressing that ORB government are a bunch of idiots for upholding the very principles that made their country prosper and able to maintain its order for so long?

Also, how come you blame ORB's government for their invader's fault?

ORB already and clearly showed their way-of-life to the world by naturals & coordinators living in harmony within their country. It's just Blue Cosmos & Patrick Zala's ZAFT who's hell-bent on genocide.

I clearly don't want to repeat this topic again since I already discuss it with monster long ago. Both of us are able to reach agreement and conclusion since we're both open-minded and not biased on this matter.
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