2010-12-04, 14:30
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: With the runaways
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Keiraku, just wanted to say that I really appreciate the philosophical/thematic/world view opinions you post! I feel that is an aspect of umineko that ryu takes seriously yet doesn't get much attention from mystery theorizing points of view.
Spoiler for Long rant on the obvious:
Thing is, ever since that extra tip describing the authors position to the story as a God in a meta world to a lower plane, I took us, readers, to be on a similar level as all meta characters and I think higurashi had a similar idea on readers being a 'necessary fragment' (...or something) for the stories completion. I personally love these 'greater than paper' kind of stories that extend their context to include the real world one way or another(such as serial experiments lain's 'love lain' thing, or key the metal idols "Be key's friend"
thing, or in this case, to challenge and understand beatrice's riddle, thereby loving(lol) her, thereby seeing her) And an extra point for umineko is its meta world that extends, I think, to include our real world.
Now your description of it as a 'thought beings' level gives great lucidity to Yasu's thinking and I bet the work in question could've given such direct explanations, except it cleverly chooses not to. Due to this, we can understand the 'tales'/'witches'/etc on various levels
which gives rise to many, yet equally valid, explanations.
For instance, some say witches are mystery writers or mystery readers, but in my reading I've understood them to include more than that, they are:
-On the literature plane, miracles are plot devices and certainty is the authors decisions on his characters.
-On the psychological plane, they are concepts that exist in our heads only yet effect our behavior.
-On real life plane, they are readers, authors, theatergoers as featherinne would have it.
-On philosophical plane, they are thought beings as you said.
-On metaphysical plane, they are archetypes with story characters as their symbols.
-etc
This kind of open format reminds me of the alchemical law of correspondence, namely everything on a certain plane corresponds to another on a higher/lower
plane which gives this more than story depth you talked about, and if all characters are thought beings in yasu's theater, elements of her message can appear in characters other than shanon/kanon and the usual, perhaps.
Sorry if this post strayed nowhere, though!
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