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Originally Posted by FlareKnight

After rewatching the scene I don't think the addition was a bad one.

I disagree. It was a needless and risky addition. The original manga approach was fine the way it was, and there's no good reason why the anime couldn't have stuck with that.

Could say there was no time given to any characterization for Miyu originally. Here we still got her initial call out of concern that alone makes it seem rather likely her words contained no actual malice in them.

Miyu plays deadpan well. Not everybody is going to interpret subtle visual cues the way you and/or The Green One might. And words that are nasty on the face of it are words that are nasty on the face of it. I'm inclined to agree with Random Wanderer that this speech was very out-of-character for Miyu. Some will be so shocked by the words that they'll miss the visual cues. I know that I was very shocked to hear Miyu insult Illya like that.

Miyu just officially became friends (through a strange method) with Illya. And that friend is now flipping out over the terror of something she doesn't necessarily need to be involved in.

If Illya wasn't involved in it, then everybody else would probably have died at the hands of Saber Class Card. It's foolhardy to push Illya out after she's not only proved her worth, but also proved that she may even be essential.

She doesn't know what Illya is going to do next, so better to make an extra push to ensure that Illya doesn't go into the next fight and get hurt any more than she already has. Someone logical by Miyu would have an easier time using the truth (in a harsh fashion) than convincing her with a touching speech.

It's partly because Miyu is logical that I find her speech out of character here. Illya was tremendously helpful in defeating Caster and Saber. Miyu should be smart enough to realize that Illya was essential in capturing those Class Cards. Who's to say that the one after Assassin won't be the same?

This way Illya might be upset for a while, but that's better than another traumatic battle and maybe one where she might get killed.

It's worse than Miyu, Rin, and Luvia all getting themselves killed because they can't handle a Class Card that Illya would have made the difference against.

In any event, even if this is 100% about protecting Illya, there were far better ways that Miyu could have went about it.

I can't imagine it's really genuine anger from Miyu, and think this gives her a bit more depth in that moment.

Miyu could be afraid. She might be legitimately afraid of what Illya might do next. I don't think so, but I think it's a viable interpretation.

Someone also could think that Miyu has ironically become jealous of Illya, seeing as how Illya mastered flight while Miyu couldn't and seeing as how Illya was able to defeat Saber when Miyu couldn't. So Miyu is now taking advantage of a bad situation to force out someone she's grown jealous of.

Now, do I think that? No, I don't. But again, not everybody is going to pick up on subtle visual cues the same way, and even for those who do notice them they may interpret them differently.

This anime-original scene really does run the risk of making Miyu seem like an unappreciative jerk to many viewers.

Originally Posted by The Green One

Were you paying attention at all?

Of course I was. Don't arrogantly assume that your way of interpreting the scene is the only viable one.

Miyu doesn't honestly mean any of what she said to her. If you pay attention to her facial expressions and cues it's blatantly obvious that it's painful to Miyu to say this to her.

It might be painful even if Miyu did mean it. People often have pained expressions when they're insulting other people.

Miyu has recgonized that her friend doesn't currently have the courage or resolve to fight in the world of magic that could kill her at any given moment.

Then why not give her a simple pep talk, instead of risking further destruction of her courage and resolve by insulting her?

This version of Illya is a normal girl, a civilian.

She fought very well against Caster for a "civilian".

Miyu is trying to protect her friend by pushing her away from this dangerous fighting so she doesn't get hurt anymore in these kind of fights. It's not the nicest way to go about this, it may not be the best way either, but Miyu doesn't want Illya to have to fight anymore as unlike before the Caster fight, Illya is now a friend to her and no longer just a casual acquaintance/stranger. What's more Illya seems to be Miyu's first friend and is even more precious to her because of that.

Yes, this is probably what the anime is aiming for. But it's very easy for viewers to get a much darker impression. It's a silly and unnecessary change from what the manga had.

But you know, even giving Miyu the benefit of doubt, it makes her look less smart, in my view, for the reasons I laid out to FlareKnight. Whether Miyu wants Illya safe or not, Miyu ought to be pragmatic and smart enough to realize that Illya's continued involvement may well be essential to defeating the remaining Class Cards.