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Originally Posted by Flyvedelta

Wait, if Kanon did survive and did not die in the first episode, that means that he's the only one that survive in the first episode right ?

But that injury on his chest cannot be fake, so. .

Originally Posted by k//eternal

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However, it was stated that nobody can mistake someone else for Kinzo. Therefore, the person who is regarded as Kinzo has to be none other than Kinzo, and not just a convincing fake. If he has something that makes others regard him as Kinzo, that has to also make him BE Kinzo.

As long as we're playing name games here, there's no reason we can't assume that in addition to two Battlers, there are two Kinzos.

The only person safe from that might be Kanon, since it's been stated that no other person can use that name, implying that only one person can.

Spoiler:

Let's look at the 2 lines of red text that surronds ep4's Ginzo closely:
1. 親族会議に居合わせた全員が、金蔵の存在を認めた！
2. 全ての人物は右代宮金蔵を見間違わない。いかなる変装であったとしても、右代宮金蔵を見間違わ ない！

We know that those who have attended the meeting recognized the existence of Ginzo. That's fine. The critial part is that the 2nd line only eliminates the fact that someone might've cosplayed and fooled everyone else as Ginzo. That is, no one was mistaken by the looks of someone who loooks like Ginzo and recognized that person as Ginzo.

If Ginzo is a title name, then someone else only has to have whatever to prove that he/she is the new Ginzo, and everyone else has to recognize him as Ginzo. Just like how everyone had to recognize "Beatrice" in ep2. Surely the adults didn't just acknowledge the existance of "Beatrice" because suit-Beatrice looked like the Beatrice on the potrait.

Furthurmore, Kanon isn't safe from manipulation. LD's red text in ??? meant nothing, as recall that the servants felt someone's presence, opened the door and there was "Kanon". That "Kanon" never claimed that he's the real Kanon; everyone else just assumed he is, and that doesn't violate LD's red text