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Old 2008-11-18, 15:25   Link #18
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and since when has Israel ever attacked a U.N. peace keeping force
http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...TOKEN=91350507
http://www.moqavemat.com/?lang=en&st...s&row_id=33107
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1017864.html
http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/20...li_bomb_ki.php


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I'm not even going to get into the Israeli-palestinian conflict in depth as its just veering off course, and quite frankly, i'd probably offend you with my opinion based upon my life experiences. (hint. i dodged scud missiles once, and daily katuysha bombardments another time)
so what? i have a couple friends in Israel, i.e. in Haifa, who have been subject to Hezbollah rockets for years. i sympathize with that, and i think Hezbollah methods are just as terroristic as Israel's, but I dont think that the US/Israeli approach is going to make the situation any better.


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as for these 2 screwing up every resolution, i beg to differ maybe you should look at some other countries voting records.
I have. its all publicly available. go to http://unbisnet.un.org and search for any keyword. its amazing if you see it for the first time, but the picture is almost universally the same: the whole world votes in a sane, logical way - the same that we all would do - and the US (+Israel mostly) (+a few random ministates) vote "no". this pattern repeats itself 100fold.


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the US hasn't exactly been a saint, but pinning most of the blame on it solely isn't exactly truthful to the main issue at hand.
it's a fact, whether you like it or not.


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Every country has its own personal agenda, and that in and on itself is the reason the UN is a antique of the past in this modern age. The two can't exist, the ideals the UN itself is based on have been exposed as a sham - consider it a victim of the most violent century in human history as the evidence.
completely, UTTERLY disagree. i think the UN should be the future. it is the only kind of democracy that exists on international level. if it wont last, most of us will simply die when the next large-scale war takes place because some idiot state considers itself above the rest of the world and exempt from UN resolutions. if you are opposing the UN, you are simply advocating tyranny.

in fact, were if not for the US, the UN would be much more effective and powerful even today.


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i want evidence to support that, last time i checked a govt. publicly announcing "lets create a second holocaust" isnt exactly to be treated lightly. What would Israel have to gain from Nuking Iran when it has the regions strongest air force, robotic weaponry, and special forces. its purely a detente. I hate to make an anime comparison but, why use reflex weapons when you have essentially the closest thing to ghosts (advanced UAV's). far less messy and less chance for backlash.
neither Iran nor Israel will use nukes unless attacked on ground and forced into an imminent defeat.


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for the record, israel officially "doesn't have" nuclear weapons and has never made a statement saying it has them. So finding factual statements from a state that hasn't officially announced its possession of nuclear weapons is going to be impossible, Hence a=b, b=c, a=c your jest is based on whims and nonexisting evidence.
there are tons of evidence that Israel has nuclear weapons. whether they publicly announce it or not is of minor importance - everyone involved knows it anyway.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_...ss_destruction
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