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in the spirit of the other character discussion threads, I suggest we put 「One-Way Street」 somewhere in this thread's title.
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2010-02-26, 13:55 | Link #102 |
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Sweet, thanks for the replies! Acc's the most interesting char to me after all.
Edit: Oh yeah... so summarized, he compresses the air into ultra high-temperatured plasma as far as I understand. So wouldn't he be able to do the opposite and not focus the 'material' into one spot, but prevent that exact spot from inhabiting anything to create a vacuum?
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2010-02-26, 18:50 | Link #103 |
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technically, yes, he should be able to...
@ice block: you sure accelerator's power works at the sub-atomic level? i mean, if that were the case, he'd be a slightly toned down version of dr manhattan....and he never looked to be that powerful(also, i don't think kihara would even think of fighting him if that were the case...) |
2010-02-26, 18:57 | Link #104 |
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Oh okay, just reminded me of Havoc / Carmine from Darker Than Black who was able to create vacuums and was said to be (imo just one of) the strongest Contractors out there. lol
Also come to think of it, memory alteration would be kind of overrated, and that's part of that other Level 5's ability if I remember correctly.
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2010-02-26, 21:51 | Link #106 |
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Well, Accelerator reconstructed a brain, so that's at the atomic level.
Granted, he can't do such complex calculations on the fly. Nuclear reactions should be within his league, since it's not THAT much harder. He's never going to need it, though, since espers break the law of thermodynamics anyways. You do realize this is Accelerator, the smartest guy in Academy City, not a newbie at a videogame? Last edited by BlueDo; 2010-02-27 at 01:53. |
2010-02-28, 10:00 | Link #107 |
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and even if he can fly it will eat up all his calculating ability and right now his ability is cut down to half thanks to him being hit in his head. Even if he can't fly or rather to me its more like floating with 0 gravity. And using the air around him to move its still unthinkable because it will eat up most of his calculating abilities and he will be vulnerable. If he can really fly that long then he should have use it. Before. As of now I only heard him walk on buildings and burst rocket the ground and also falling from a skyscraper without a scratch that most likely needed 0 gravity.
And yes. Accel can to atomic level calculations but that eat all of his calculating abilities and that's before the incident of brain damage. Right now with his current state he could only do that in black wings mode. Doing high complex computation means that he would take off his passive firewall of AIM field. |
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2010-02-28, 16:12 | Link #110 |
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I'm saying Accelerator can direct the force gravity exerts on him in different directions.
Of course, Devil's Proof would say that he's never shown to do anything of the sort. We'll have to ask novel readers what happens here, then. Spoiler for vol 15:
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2010-02-28, 16:30 | Link #111 |
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Seriously, I could do anything for faster translations of the LN everytime I see pictures or read spoilers. <_<
Then again I could learn Japanese for the heck of it. Then again I don't even have the raws of the LN. Then again my brother mentioned he had those as imagefiles for apparently no reason. Fukou da.
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2010-03-01, 09:53 | Link #112 |
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episode 13? back in index? well I did say he could stay air borne for a couple of second the one I'm against is him FLYING!. I think flight and flying are different right? I think it's impossible for him to fly in air where he has total control of his flying. If its just a high jump or rapid jump or just stay on air for a couple of seconds its possible. But for flying sky high and then stay air borne is I think impossible.
That picture is the picture when his having a fight with Spoiler:
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2010-03-01, 21:22 | Link #113 |
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Hey everyone. Glad to see this thread, seeing as Accelerator has, quite possibly, THE most rule-breaking ability thanks to the heavy reliance of vectors in virtually all branches of physics. Everything that "moves" has a vector and while not everything moves, those that don't probably don't have much application in the real world as it is (based on my own meager knowledge of physics)
Now I hope I'm not breaking any trains-of-thought here, but... I was just wondering if anyone would like to start up a discussion on the extent of Accelerator's abilities? Perhaps this was already done before (and if so I apologize), but I'm particularly interested in the part where... Spoiler:
I may be missing many details as I only really know what the anime itself has shown (I haven't read the light novels, etc.), so I'm sorry if the answer is obvious. However, it seems to me that while theoretically possible, doing such a thing is probably out of the scope of even "Tree Diagram". I just don't see it as believable. Of course, you could argue that if you wanted realism, why watch/read Index anyway? In which case, I'm sorry I've wasted your time. |
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Since the begining, when the "supernatural powers being canalized by science" was introduced with the esper Mikoto shooting a railgun started the fiction(pseudo-science or whatever you want to call it). I'm sure that many of us already noticed this fact without any difficult. |
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The high jumps are done by both increasing the magnitude of the vectors representing the forces exerted by the ground on his feet, and redirecting and increasing the magnitude of the vectors representing the forces exerted by his feet towards the ground, such that both supposedly opposite forces are now working together to push him upwards. Vector-powered kicks and punches work the opposite way -- the vectors representing the forces exerted by his target on his foot/fist/etc are redirected towards the target, instantly doubling the effect of the kick/punch/etc while removing the backlash/recoil. This is the reason why you feel pain when you punch a wall or something hard, the wall exerts a force on your fist equal to the force exerted by your fist on the wall -- now, guess which is more rigid/resilient?
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2010-03-03, 00:26 | Link #117 |
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On Accelerator's brain programing.
His manipulating the electrical signals in human brain. Also, he did not do it to the brain directly, as he can touch the brain. What he did is manipulating the the electrical current of the neuros on the skin, and manipulate them in a way that'll cause a chain effect that can effect the electrical signals in the brain. This is why doing so eats up so much of his calculation capacity, he has to calculate every next step of each eletrical signal on the skin surface that can eventually pass into brain and correct the brain's electrical pattern as he wish. |
2010-03-04, 15:53 | Link #118 |
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Sorry for being a science Nazi, but I can't help it when fundamentals of science are ignored when quoting wiki.
When applying the concept of vectors, always remember the direction is propagated by a force, thus proving true for Newton's First Law (and in the case of light and electrostatics we include Einstein's Mass-Energy equivalence and Principle of Conservation of Energy). Therefore we can apply Newton's Third Law of opposing forces in whatever he does. THAT is the thing that makes him vincible. As much as he likes to manipulate vectors, he can't manipulate all of it, or he can only do so for a limited amount of time. But his capability of his power is limitless as long as he can think of a way to apply it. Thus you can't ignore mass when it comes to calculating vectors. He can actually edit the total mass by applying the Zeroth and First Laws of Thermodynamics, and the science of phase transition in matter : by just simply redirecting energy transferred to or out of the object.
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