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2004-10-31, 01:26 | Link #82 | |
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2004-11-10, 04:40 | Link #83 | |
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2004-11-17, 15:50 | Link #84 |
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i recall downloading DBGT from Super5 as the first thing i ever downloaded. and yes, they were digital because i remember them waiting on the laserdiscs to finish off the bebi and super 17(pretty sure it was android 17) sagas. i want to say this was between fall of 99 and winter 2000. i would have to check the dates of those cd's i burned to be sure.
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2004-11-17, 18:40 | Link #87 |
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Yes, it would. Unless the avi was re-encoded from a VHS source. It needs to be created as a video file rather than genlocked with the source and copied to a VHS tape.
You were unclear about the result being an avi. Actually, that's quite unusual for an early digisub. Most of the earlies digisubs were in rm format. Are you sure that you downloaded an avi?
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2004-11-17, 20:00 | Link #89 |
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Uh....
The first digisubs were .avi files. The stuff that was floating around as .rm files are most likely VHS rips. Digisubbing as we know it basically began with Avery Lee's subtitler filter for VirtualDub, which would yield an avi file of SOME sort. |
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2004-11-17, 20:42 | Link #91 |
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Or making hard-sub DVD-Rs from ripped DVDs -- technogirls did this for instance, as did a few other of the VHS subbers.
Digital or not, prior to "ms-mpeg4 v2", or "ms-mpeg4 v3" an identical codec to 'DivX :) 3.1a'), the main formats were .rm and .mpg (MPEG-1). A popular source of .rm's was lunaarts.com, but primarily, these were video captures or digisubs re-encoded from other formats. As far as digital, I don't remember any groups intentionally making .rm's. Only .avi's and .mpg's. Sometimes distributors would re-encode those .avi's or .mpg's to .rm to cut filesize, though. And pre-nandub, many groups (#animempeg for instance) were still releasing a lot of .mpg because it was easier to get good and constistent quality for an encode. DivX had a high-motion codec, VBR quantization 5 or less (you could set the bitrate cap) or a low-motion codec which ended up being pretty close to CBR. Once nandub became usable, I don't remember any group releasing in .mpg anymore. |
2004-11-18, 14:10 | Link #92 | |
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VCD, not laserdic. |
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2004-11-19, 08:42 | Link #93 |
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found something on super5.com
http://web.archive.org/web/199910130...com/index.html it a post from 99 and from the beginning of 2000 : http://web.archive.org/web/200005200...ww.super5.com/ i suppose they were older when they begun subbing gt from vcd Spoiler:
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2004-11-19, 13:34 | Link #94 |
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If we've settled on '99-'00 as the beginning of real digisubbing, my digisubs of Hunter X Hunter are the oldest surviving files in my collection. HxH debuted in October of '99, and the subs are from aku-fansubs.
Generally, though, I remember digisub trading being pretty active before that. For instance, I know I saw Tenshi ni Narumon (April '99), The Adventures of the Mini-Godesses (April '98), and Record of Lodoss War TV (April '98) through a purely digital release. |
2004-11-19, 18:10 | Link #95 | |
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2004-11-19, 21:22 | Link #96 | |
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2004-11-19, 21:23 | Link #97 | |
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Also, in the early days of digisubs, a lot of files were being encoded and distributed on the net as .rm, .asf, avi or mpeg, but they were captures from VHS subs and therefore not digisubs. Some groups would make a VHS sub, cap the VHS, and release it in a digital format at the same time they made the tape available or even before the tape was available. Basically if a genlock or VCR was used in the subbing process (other than to cap a raw from VHS) it's not a digisub by the definition that seems to be being used in this thread. |
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2004-11-19, 22:25 | Link #98 | |
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I have an archived document that shows e-f celebrated their 1-year anniversary on around Oct. 2001. Sep. 2000 was probably near the 'beginning of things' as far as digi-subbing went. Or, if there was stuff going on before then, it wasn't visible groups with irc channels and what-not. |
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2004-11-20, 01:39 | Link #99 | |
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