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The "magic" of Hollywood accounting leads me to believe that Ghibli studio saw very little of those proceeds. All Hollywood films "lose money/fail" when it comes time to pay the actual creative forces.
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2010-09-21, 20:07 | Link #24 | |
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You're not the only one. This felt more like reading a collection of bullet points that relate to each other than a complete article.
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2010-09-21, 22:32 | Link #27 | |
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I suspect this story has much more to do with the fact that Hayao's getting along in years. Sadly, from what I've heard about Earthsea, Goro's talents don't match up very well with his father's. While Ghibli may have been a collaborative in its early years, nowadays it's pretty much synonymous with the Miyazaki name. Better to go out when you're on top than slouch into mediocrity.
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2010-09-22, 00:16 | Link #28 |
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I think Ghibli going out of business has more to do with Hayao's attittude rather than finance problems. I'm willing to bet that Hayao's thinking that if it's not successful in the US, that can only mean that people are more interested in the poor anime TV series people often "incorrectly" compare his work to even though it's on a much higher plane of existence. If people keep doing that, then there's no point in him making movies i.e. it has more to do with Hayao's attittude problems and the fact he looks down on the anime industry in general.
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2010-09-22, 09:00 | Link #30 |
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Judging from sites on corporate information there is no indication that Studio Ghibli inc. is in any financial trouble. They even opened a new studio recently and they are still hiring staff. Not really the behavior of a firm in financial trouble. Also, since 2005, Ghibli has become an independent firm, unlike before where mother company Takuma Shoten Publishing leached of it's profits.
There are known problems in the HR department, as replacing aging directors Miyazaki and Takahata has proven difficult. This has been mentioned well before the Cut Magazine article so I guess Miyazaki's comments can be read along those lines. If Ghibli can't produce quality works according to their own standards anymore it's not worth it to continue the studio. Though it would help if we see the actual wording of the article instead of just translated quotes. |
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I just have to ask if this is all those speculative economics thingies I hear a lot about. As much as I continue to prostrate myself to Miyazaki he's essentially over the hill not just in age, and Grave was the only Takahata directed movie I think I ever really loved. The last news item I heard was that they've been cutting staff a lot, but not outright folding because given the nature of their releases I can hardly think, without financial data, that they're out of money.
What they really should have done in the last 10 or so years was get more creative talent it while they were still properly in the black. Relying solely on the skills of Miyazaki could have only gotten them so far. It worked in the 80s, 90s and the early 21st, but it seems it just isn't working anymore now. Perhaps the new viewership of this generation can no longer click with the studio's style and approach, for (controversial?) reasons I won't dare go into, but it might not be so far to assume that in reality, Ghibli has lost most if not all relevance with the current generation and what they want in anime. Which, for me, might be a rather sad thing in retrospect.
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It actually makes me wonder more if Miyazaki's fame is a double edged sword: it brings a lot of "star" appeal for the studio, but likewise puts a lot of pressure and hype for the rest of the team to perform. If his son's work on Earthsea and it's lukewarm acceptance was any indication, the rest of the potential candidates for leading the next generation of the studio haven't been performing to expectations. It could simply be because the expectations for them are much too high. Again, likely the effect of Miyazaki's and Takahata's status. As for the target demographics... well I would assume that in this day and age in the 21st century, the purchasing power in anime might have really shifted more to the Otaku demographics as opposed to the family ones. Although to me, it's probably not simply a matter of economics as perception of the medium in general. I cannot claim to speak for the midnight crowd since I don't (mostly) belong to that category. I spoke of relevance because, as opposed to my youth back in the 80s and 90s at least, the shifts in what the viewing public wants has gone more towards the genres and methods that Ghibli does not go for. Perhaps it's more correct to say that their target demographic has become a smaller piece of the pie as compared to the past.
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As can be seen, the bigger news at the time was that Miyazaki was apparently planning a sequel to Porco Rosso. It would seem that any decision to "close" Ghibli will not be prompted by lack of funds, but rather by the lack worthwhile future projects. If that turns out to be the case, the founders apparently intend to downsize to a smaller studio that would "not make any more films, and just handle the copyrights for the studio's existing works". |
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2010-09-22, 11:46 | Link #35 | |
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Moreover most of those come from just a few shows - Gundam, Kara no Kyoukai, Hetalia, Gintama, Haruhi, and Code Geass. The vast array of television series that appear on the upcoming anime lists each season are nowhere to be found. It does appear that the otaku crowd has been a mainstay of Blu-ray sales though, with good numbers for the Evangelion remake, Bakemonogatari, Macross Frontier, and K-On!. Still it's a pretty small list of shows with sales that are dwarfed by the Miyazaki films.
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I do wonder if companies making theatrical anime of said franchises realize that the casual fan probably isn't a bottomless money supply though. We might get another saturated market like we did in TV anime a few years back, with lots of stuff being made but very little getting good sales.
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@Bri: I'm sure this plays a fairly big role as well. After all, most anime movies don't sell 800,000 copies.
Still, I wouldn't be surprised if fans who would never buy an anime TV series on DVD or Bluray might buy an anime movie on DVD or bluray. It's just a matter of price structures: yeah, anime movies are hugely expensive too, but at least you're not shelling out month after month like you do collecting a series. Hence why I say movies are a better way to reach into the pocketbooks of casual anime fans - semi-otaku if you prefer.
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