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Old 2007-07-02, 20:33   Link #21
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And also sharingan is an eye skill, so naturally sight would be the primary one affected by that particular genjutsu. Sasuke has several different styles of combat, he doesn't just focus primarily on genjutsu. If Dei Dei was fighting Itachi and his crazy hypnotic spells it would be a different story. Cause I'm sure Itachi has mastered all forms of genjutsu and not just sight.
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Old 2007-07-03, 07:52   Link #22
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Ok can someone explain to me what i missed?
Deidara's eyes are normal. His technique...well atleast his special move seems anti-ninjutsu users like Uchiha's.

So far i didnt read anything specific about anti-uchiha abilities...

You must have not read the last chapter then, that's all.
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Old 2007-07-03, 07:56   Link #23
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I don't think so. Deidara trained his eye for 10(?) years to make it resistant to the Sharingan. I find it doubtful that Jiraiya would take that much time to obsess over the Sharingan, especially when he spends most of his free time peeping or writing Icha Icha books.... lol. Though i guess it might be possible.

Um-that encounter with Itachi and Diedara could have happened 6 months ago.
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Old 2007-07-03, 08:16   Link #24
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I mentioned this theory in the other thread, dunno if someone else has said it already~

But if Tobi is in fact Obito he could have helped Deidara train against MS.
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Old 2007-07-03, 10:02   Link #25
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Nearly every genjustu has affected the person's sight with illusion. Training one eye to combat illusions makes a lot of sense.
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Old 2007-07-03, 10:35   Link #26
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but genjutsu is not about sight its about controlling the chakra right?
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Old 2007-07-03, 11:34   Link #27
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I mentioned this theory in the other thread, dunno if someone else has said it already~

But if Tobi is in fact Obito he could have helped Deidara train against MS.
Interesting theory.
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Old 2007-07-03, 11:37   Link #28
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why would tobi help deidara? they are team mates but not friends/brothers.

if (and this is a big if) tobi has a sharingan, it is the ultimate card he can play and he wont be giving up his ultimate tech just to train deidara...it is as simple as that.why kakashi never teaches anybody to counter sharingan?(especially to naruto and co?) because it can be used against him.
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Old 2007-07-03, 11:45   Link #29
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why would tobi help deidara? they are team mates but not friends/brothers.

if (and this is a big if) tobi has a sharingan, it is the ultimate card he can play and he wont be giving up his ultimate tech just to train deidara...it is as simple as that.why kakashi never teaches anybody to counter sharingan?(especially to naruto and co?) because it can be used against him.

Or because he does not know how...? Just because you have it, doesn't mean you know how to counter it. And they do, in fact, seem pretty friendly. It's just an interesting theory. I don't think that's what happened...but interesting thinking nonetheless.
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Old 2007-07-03, 12:16   Link #30
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Old 2007-07-03, 12:18   Link #31
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but genjutsu is not about sight its about controlling the chakra right?
Yes. Controlling chakra in the brain, and with that, creating illusions. Illusions are visual things. So if you can train your "eye" (the eye is simply a vehicle for receiving information) to stop receiving information in a particular way you may be able to "see" through an illusion.

Sounds far-fetched, I know.
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Old 2007-07-03, 12:25   Link #32
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I'd imagine (if actual physiology bears any significance here) that Deidara simply trained himself to use his chakra to enhance the optical nerve impulses generated by his left eye. Basically, he has 1/2 of one of his five senses that's strong enough to overpower that aspect of a genjutsu's influence over his brain's chakra flow. Generally speaking, we are more aware of things when our senses conflict over our perception of them. As a result, it makes sense that properly resisting with even part of one sense would significantly improve Deidara's ability to defeat genjutsu.
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Old 2007-07-03, 13:05   Link #33
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what it seems to me is that Deidaira's left eye was trained at 100x gravity, then he went into the hyperbolic time chamber and trained for 1 yars in a weeks worh... just maynet but out of all the its seem is just an genjutstu taraint eye if you noticed the pupil on the eye is very fine.
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Old 2007-07-03, 14:03   Link #34
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what it seems to me is that Deidaira's left eye was trained at 100x gravity, then he went into the hyperbolic time chamber and trained for 1 yars in a weeks worh... just maynet but out of all the its seem is just an genjutstu taraint eye if you noticed the pupil on the eye is very fine.
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