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View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 17 Rating
Perfect 10 74 69.16%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 20 18.69%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 8 7.48%
7 out of 10 : Good 2 1.87%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.93%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 2 1.87%
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Old 2007-07-22, 14:20   Link #61
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Let me say this once again; Holy. Shit.
Spoiler for EP17 A Part:

B Part:
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Old 2007-07-22, 14:21   Link #62
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And you made ANOTHER mistake. Zest insisted Agito release fusion as he was going to end in with one strike via Full Drive, but Agito went nonononono and refused, since FD apparently strains his body badly. When Zest was about to retreat, Agito released unison to attack Vita with the fireball, but Zest quickly saved her with Full Drive... and made Agito really really shocked that Zest used it to save her.
well though that attack really didnt seem all that special and yet vita was utterly crushed...interesting that he has to be out of unison to be able to use it though
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Old 2007-07-22, 14:26   Link #63
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I'd say that Subaru and Ginga's Mother saved them from the labs...

And yeah, I can see that hapening, a brainwashed Ginga fighting against the Forwards...or just Subaru
If that indeed did happen, and it might actually come true, then we probably won't see it until Ep. 22 to 25 maybe. ^^;

That would be one epic and heartbreaking battle to see. Though I don't really want it to happen, it feels like it's leading up to that point.
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Old 2007-07-22, 14:28   Link #64
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I don't understand why lutecia help to take Vivio, she saved agito from experiment but she is ok with vivio being 'cyborgized" !?

Also, caro rampage but only on drones ? >.>

It's hard to wait the raw


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Old 2007-07-22, 14:28   Link #65
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If that indeed did happen, and it might actually come true, then we probably won't see it until Ep. 22 to 25 maybe. ^^;
If that did happen I would be excited to watch the fight scenes.
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Old 2007-07-22, 14:31   Link #66
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well though that attack really didnt seem all that special and yet vita was utterly crushed...interesting that he has to be out of unison to be able to use it though
Well... Rein seems to be in a peculiar condition after Vita got FDed... Maybe it's related somehow, like a virus attack, or a mental attack which Rein took the mental damage instead. Since Zest is confident in ending it in one hit, it must have some sort of specialty, since it's also a double-edged attack.

Maybe it's not so much of a non-unison attack, but more of a "Agito will also suffer the negative-effects together" kind of thing. Both of them are tsunderes in a way after all.
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Old 2007-07-22, 14:36   Link #67
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I don't understand why lutecia help to take Vivio, she saved agito from experiment but she is ok with vivio being 'cyborgized" !?
Lutecia seems to like/trust Spaghetti.
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Well... Rein seems to be in a peculiar condition after Vita got FDed... Maybe it's related somehow, like a virus attack, or a mental attack which Rein took the mental damage instead. Since Zest is confident in ending it in one hit, it must have some sort of specialty, since it's also a double-edged attack.
Maybe Rein simply got knocked out by force, seeing that in previous episode, Agito was seen to be taken some damage even though she was supposed to be unisoned with Zest when Vita smashed them.
Vita is... well, let's say, "made" to be front combatant and trained too, but Rein's not really one to take heavy hit after all.
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Old 2007-07-22, 14:41   Link #69
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Well... Rein seems to be in a peculiar condition after Vita got FDed... Maybe it's related somehow, like a virus attack, or a mental attack which Rein took the mental damage instead. Since Zest is confident in ending it in one hit, it must have some sort of specialty, since it's also a double-edged attack.

Maybe it's not so much of a non-unison attack, but more of a "Agito will also suffer the negative-effects together" kind of thing. Both of them are tsunderes in a way after all.

And who was the 2nd narrator in the preview anyway? I noticed Hayate's voice... I think, and another one... sound familiar somehow... Yuuno?
i can see the "only affect unison devices" label already XD but seriously im more inclined to think of it as a heavy burst damage in a split second kinda thing...i would say that rein fell unconcious because she effectively shielded vita from the full burst (we should have heard a loud boom i guess ) ~ but rein wasnt enough to take all the impact so eisen when bust...

agito going berserk and fainting was unexpected...but when you say its a double edge type attack zest seemed to be fine and dandy to me except IF agito took the damage for him instead...id say that the negative energy only affects unison type beings if it wasnt relying on overwhelming power
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Old 2007-07-22, 14:45   Link #70
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I don't understand why lutecia help to take Vivio, she saved agito from experiment but she is ok with vivio being 'cyborgized" !?
From what I understand, we don't know what Jail is planning to do with Vivio yet...

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And who was the 2nd narrator in the preview anyway? I noticed Hayate's voice... I think, and another one... sound familiar somehow... Yuuno?
Sounds like him but a little heavier than usual.

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I don't understand why lutecia help to take Vivio, she saved agito from experiment but she is ok with vivio being 'cyborgized" !?

Also, caro rampage but only on drones ? >.>
Most probably it has something to do with the relics... the numbers creation was related to em including Vivio.Also Vivio is not being cyborgized..she is not a human in the 1st place.

Caro only hitting the drones because they are going to destroy the buildings and they were all that left, all the numbers and Lutecia already gone.

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agito going berserk and fainting was unexpected...but when you say its a double edge type attack zest seemed to be fine and dandy to me except IF agito took the damage for him instead...id say that the negative energy only affects unison type beings if it wasnt relying on overwhelming power
It has something to do with his body, might be some kind of long term effect.That's why Agito is being fussy about Zest using it.
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Old 2007-07-22, 14:51   Link #72
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Sounds like him but a little heavier than usual.
Nah, I rewatched and it's Teana/Elio.

Despite sorting all 11 Numbers bar Uno herself... No. II is conveniently missing.

And since Zest mentioned the movements of several over S mages, it means all limiters were off... Weird really. What's with the huge gap between III/VII, VIII, XII, and IX, XI then, if III and VII can match S+ Fate while IX barely breaking even against Powered Subaru? One would think the combat Numbers would be more balanced overall...whatever.
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Old 2007-07-22, 15:01   Link #73
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^ balanced is unlikely...there would be some stronger than others even if the order of birth doesnt mean much :3
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It has something to do with his body, might be some kind of long term effect.That's why Agito is being fussy about Zest using it.
Edit:Thisguy summary said that it shorten his life
ah brain poisoning perhaps it kills off a portion of his brain O.O
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Nah, I rewatched and it's Teana/Elio.
That makes sense... Seeing as how they'll be the ones promising themselves to be stronger.


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Despite sorting all 11 Numbers bar Uno herself... No. II is conveniently missing.

And since Zest mentioned the movements of several over S mages, it means all limiters were off... Weird really. What's with the huge gap between III/VII, VIII, XII, and IX, XI then, if III and VII can match S+ Fate while IX barely breaking even against Powered Subaru? One would think the combat Numbers would be more balanced overall...whatever.
What was number II's speciality again?

"Several over S mage"... Does that includes Lindy and Carim? And we don't know Schach rank yet as well...
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What was number II's speciality again?
We don't know yet.
As well as Uno mentions that they had all Numbers in this mission but one... they're still hiding II under secret.
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We don't know yet.
As well as Uno mentions that they had all Numbers in this mission but one... they're still hiding II under secret.
Isn't but one herself? During the opening monologue, she did refer herself as Number First, Uno... though I'm not sure if it included her in the count.
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Despite sorting all 11 Numbers bar Uno herself... No. II is conveniently missing.
Perhaps no. II has been there with TSAB all along, they just never show which one yet.
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And since Zest mentioned the movements of several over S mages, it means all limiters were off... Weird really. What's with the huge gap between III/VII, VIII, XII, and IX, XI then, if III and VII can match S+ Fate while IX barely breaking even against Powered Subaru? One would think the combat Numbers would be more balanced overall...whatever.
It might also had to do with their opponent.
No.VII herself might not be a match against Fate but paired with III who are suited for Fate (speed), they could be better.Perhaps Nueve and Uendi just got unlucky opponents (they never expect the mass Kage bushin )

Powered Subaru rank might be higher than IX and V.Also Zafira and Shamal(very defensive type) can be considered the weakest among the wolkentier group plus they were facing dozens of drones in addition to the 2 numbers.
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Old 2007-07-22, 15:18   Link #78
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Lol! Double meaning

"But one" could either refer to her (She is 'one' after all), or the more obvious meaning of, well you know...
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Yeah makes sense Teana and Erio would be looking to get stronger after this. Teana couldn't do anything to help Subaru this time. Seeing her partner getting into such a state and suffering a serious loss would lead to that kind've feeling. Same for Erio who tried as hard as he could to prevent Vivio from being taken from her 'family'. Though charging in against 2 numbers, Lutecia, and Garyuu there wasn't much hope of success there.

Yeah seems like a last resort for Zest. If it does shorten his life or at the very least have some really negative side-effects you can understand Agito not wanting him to use it. Wonder though who he'll be up against next time? Vita going in for revenge after the damage to Eisen? Or Signum who just missed out on the fighting will get a shot?
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Signum: what the hell? The fight is over just as I arrive?... AGAIN?

I am curious about Subaru, though. Just how much did the Aces know about this? Hayate probably knew about this, but does Fate and the others know?
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