Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 17 Discussion / Poll

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Certainly it's always seemed wierd to me that Subaru could punch her way through Gadget Drone armor. Even a bodybuilder can't do that, and even with Revolver Knuckle the drone's AMF can nullify any enhancement on Subaru's punches, especially at close range

Teana found a way to get past the AMF, about ten minutes after seeing one for the first time (in episode 3). Can't Subaru have done the same?

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Kinda found it hard to swallow that Subaru was just that strong.

Teana is stronger: she can throw Subaru with merely a finger!

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by An Hero in Disguise

If Doc is really serious in believing to work for the good of humanity the last option isn't completely unlikely.

Come on, with an evil laugh like that, how can anyone believe him?

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Fabien

Teana found a way to get past the AMF, about ten minutes after seeing one for the first time (in episode 3). Can't Subaru have done the same?

Using a AA rank spell that is known to break through AMF. Whereas Subaru merely had to smash Drones with her fist, which would make using an Anti-AMF spell redundant.

Teana is stronger: she can throw Subaru with merely a finger!

[An Hero in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Fabien

Come on, with an evil laugh like that, how can anyone believe him?

I believe him. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

My point was actually whether he believes in it himself or not.

[aroduc]

Holy fucking awesome.
http://blog.seiha.org/?p=215

I'm in the process of uploading the Subaru part and ripping out the Erio/Caro part at the end. I'll post those once they're up.

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Certainly it's always seemed wierd to me that Subaru could punch her way through Gadget Drone armor. Even a bodybuilder can't do that, and even with Revolver Knuckle the drone's AMF can nullify any enhancement on Subaru's punches, especially at close range, and at speeds slower than attacks like Scwhalbe Fliegen. Kinda found it hard to swallow that Subaru was just that strong.

If you're right, I can answer Avatar_notADV's question: since nobody was surprised seeing what Subaru can do, everyone at Division 6 knew about her being a cyborg.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by An Hero in Disguise

Nothing personal against them, it was just a perfect moment for some members of the cast to go for good (it's unlikely to see something decent performed by Shamal or Zafira in future episodes anyway), but they missed the opportunity

Strangly, I agree with you on this. Using the excuse of "They aren't doing anything anyway." But looking at Zafira, I'm sure he's out-of-action for the rest of the series... Okay, maybe not that bad but you know what I mean!

Originally Posted by An Hero in Disguise

At the same time it can't be said for sure that Scaglietti doesn't actually believe in what he's said.

Man, you're really playing this all the way huh?

Originally Posted by An Hero in Disguise

I rather meant looks and abilities than general outcome of the fight.

Well, if what I head was true, he was out-number-ed

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Strangly, I agree with you on this. Using the excuse of "They aren't doing anything anyway." But looking at Zafira, I'm sure he's out-of-action for the rest of the series... Okay, maybe not that bad but you know what I mean!

Well, if what I head was true, he was out-number-ed

Meh, you know the bloodless-conquer was just an excuse for the Numbers to not deal finishing blows to enemies they've beaten and sparing non-mages who can barely hold cover. To be honest, I really felt like they should've at least killed Griffith and co...

Jedi Ninja >> Knight-wannabe.

[aroduc]

Subaru... Berserker Mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7OLJ5kfruw

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Fabien

Come on, with an evil laugh like that, how can anyone believe him?

Well, I was laughing with him.

Spoiler for Lots of pointless HAHAHAs:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Great episode, I saw heaven.

Can someone list the new numbers? I couldn't hear some of their IS skills. One was like "Twin Blade". Also, one of the numbers was a "boku" female?

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

To be honest, I really felt like they should've at least killed Griffith and co...

Sigh... Why the hell do people want half of the cast to be murdered?
I know, the cast is huge, but does that really hamper the show?

Remember, this is Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha. People who are to be dead, are dead before the show starts. The only two exceptions I know of are:
- Precia, who (probably) killed herself;
- Reinforce, who asked to be killed.

[aroduc]

And the Erio/Caro part from near the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCOsosvzY2E

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Fabien

Sigh... Why the hell do people want half of the cast to be murdered?
I know, the cast is huge, but does that really hamper the show?

Remember, this is Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha. People who are to be dead, are dead before the show starts. The only two exceptions I know of are:
- Precia, who (probably) killed herself;
- Reinforce, who asked to be killed.

Meh, I'm always a little irked every time bad guys spare defeated good guys and not deal the final blow. Granted, Jail asked for it, and for a semi-decent reason (( if only for image-sake )), but still... sigh.

Can someone list the new numbers? I couldn't hear some of their IS skills. One was like "Twin Blade". Also, one of the numbers was a "boku" female?

Number VIII, Otto is the boku. Looks like a male-type from the voice and the pants, but we've seen worse traps in anime. His IS is Ray Storm.

The flash-move girl with him is, Dido, Number XII. IS = Twin Blades.

That's the only new Numbers in Episode 17. Uno's IS is still unknown, and we still don't know jack about Number II, Due.

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

and we still don't know jack about Number II, Due.

I've read somewhere (here?) that she might be Regius' assistant.
That would be fitting: Uno as Bad Guy #1's assistant, Due as Bad Guy #2's assistant.

[asaqe]

Originally Posted by An Hero in Disguise

If Doc is really serious in believing to work for the good of humanity the last option isn't completely unlikely.

He could tell how She and Subaru were made test subjects by their own father and how he was forced to work on the project and lie about how he is doing this to avenge those who were victims to TSAB's follying with human nature and how they became cyborgs unknowingly (And Ginga is somehow forced to suck this down wherever she likes it or not)

[asaqe]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Meh, I'm always a little irked every time bad guys spare defeated good guys and not deal the final blow. Granted, Jail asked for it, and for a semi-decent reason (( if only for image-sake )), but still... sigh.



Number VIII, Otto is the boku. Looks like a male-type from the voice and the pants, but we've seen worse traps in anime. His IS is Ray Storm.

The flash-move girl with him is, Dido, Number XII. IS = Twin Blades.

That's the only new Numbers in Episode 17. Uno's IS is still unknown, and we still don't know jack about Number II, Due.

It seems like Seven and twelve are almost like a twin in terms of looks and fighting style (Uses blades and has long wavy hair)

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Meh, you know the bloodless-conquer was just an excuse for the Numbers to not deal finishing blows to enemies they've beaten and sparing non-mages who can barely hold cover. To be honest, I really felt like they should've at least killed Griffith and co...

Jedi Ninja >> Knight-wannabe.

No point killing them, they are too easily replaced, THEN we'll be treated to MORE new characters...

Originally Posted by Fabien

Sigh... Why the hell do people want half of the cast to be murdered?
I know, the cast is huge, but does that really hamper the show?

In terms of plot? Maybe not so much, but we already have one too many characters being nerf for space, and one too many characters who aren't doing anything. So character-wise, it's not a very good thing.

Originally Posted by Fabien

Remember, this is Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha. People who are to be dead, are dead before the show starts. The only two exceptions I know of are:
- Precia, who (probably) killed herself;
- Reinforce, who asked to be killed.

Yes, but those were considered small scaled conflicts, low Causalities are understandable.

[aroduc]

And the short fight from the start...

Spoiler:

About the only battle Riot-6 won. Go Tea! :-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z9EE-tveAA

[RandomGuy]

Originally Posted by raidou

I always thought the human form is the temporary one, considering they were created based on animals and return to that form once the master died or too weak(just like the twins).

Except Zafira isn't a familiar. He's one of the four Guardian Knights created by the Book of the Night Sky. He works under different rules than Arf.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Except Zafira isn't a familiar. He's one of the four Guardian Knights created by the Book of the Night Sky. He works under different rules than Arf.

A 'Guardian Beast' as the ancient Velka-users call it.

Which is basically the same thing as a familiar.

So yeah, he works under the same rule as Arf, just add in the program part.