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Old 2007-07-25, 16:18   Link #461
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Hehe... at least let me spam my thoughts about the matter

Rin's lack of sexual propriety is almost pathological, considering that normal 10-year old girls with normal crushes don't shove their naked crotches up the face of their teachers

BTW, Anna O. wasn't immature, per se. Her deeply repressed sexual urges (I would rather prefer her deeply missing her father) had an effect on her well-being, eventually affecting her body as well. Breuer was the target for her affections, and Breuer's reaction (once he knew that repressed sexual urges were behind Anna's symptoms) was to push her away. Kind of cold, but professional.

Rin, on the other hand, is a physically immature girl who's well-being is affected by the absence of her father (or at least someone who'll stand as her father). Unlike Anna, though, Rin's "come-ons" to Aoki may not indicate a repressed sexual urge, but more likely to gain the affections of her target father-figure. If Anna's target was Breuer, Rin's target is Aoki. Aoki, unlike Breuer, didn't drop Rin like a hot potato... he's trying to walk the fine line between being a professional and being a human being.

That's the point of comparison between Anna O. and Rin, as well as Aoki and Breuer..
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Old 2007-07-25, 17:49   Link #462
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If nothing else, it makes Aoki *very* suspicious of Rin's caregiver. That's a cardinal sign of things ;gone wrong; at home. Ah, the misunderstandings swirl
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Old 2007-07-25, 17:53   Link #463
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Yeah, well, the whole "I'm waiting for her to grow up into her mother so I can have a relationship with her" thing doesn't make me, as a reader, all that trusting of Reiji.

In fact, it gives me a serious case of the creeps, as nothing Rin ever did managed.

Of course, it could be worse. He could decide not to wait.
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Old 2007-07-25, 17:59   Link #464
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What I'm more interested now is what Reiji sees in Rin now that she's on the verge of Womanhood....
oh god...how old is rin again? reiji sure has fine tastes for the young hehe ~~

but already the first scan is over the top with then nudity...kinda hard to believe even if it is true O.O
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Old 2007-07-25, 18:03   Link #465
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If nothing else, it makes Aoki *very* suspicious of Rin's caregiver. That's a cardinal sign of things ;gone wrong; at home. Ah, the misunderstandings swirl
Well, now that you knew of Reiji's Operation Murasaki, it will be most interesting should Aoki finds out and takes their rivary to new heights.
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Old 2007-07-26, 06:31   Link #466
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I don't get 'operation murasaki', even after scanning the wiki link. Is it something like raising a little girl in the expectation that you can mold her into your 'ideal woman'? ( o_o)?

edit: never mind... I read the article on Genji Monogatari and yep, it's like a copy-paste of what I just said XD

edit 2: okay... chapter 28's been released by SaHa and...

...sh*t... this is one scary chapter. ( O_O);

The strip with Usa and Rin just *barely* borders on pornographic, to be sure. If anything else, that is some SERIOUS fanservice in there.

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Yeah, well, the whole "I'm waiting for her to grow up into her mother so I can have a relationship with her" thing doesn't make me, as a reader, all that trusting of Reiji.

In fact, it gives me a serious case of the creeps, as nothing Rin ever did managed.

Of course, it could be worse. He could decide not to wait.
After reading chapter 28, those are my sentiments exactly... though you've got to give plus-points to the lolicon for his encouraging Usa back there. Guess no one is ever really truly evil... just messed up.
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Old 2007-07-26, 07:06   Link #467
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Things are getting even more complex than anyone can expected, in fact.

Reiji is now obessed with Rin. Usa renews her infatuation in Reiji. Rin and Usa's friendship is on a new level, which will cause tension with Kuro should she finds out what happens. Aoki stills cares for Rin and hell will rises should he discover what Reiji harbours deep in him, of course, there's Rin's trust in Reiji to consider. Did I mention since Reiji is hot for Rin and Usa is going for Reiji, what will happen if Usa also finds out Reiji's plans ?
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Old 2007-07-26, 12:08   Link #468
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Reiji's plan has got me VERY interested; please keep posting summaries, everyone.

I have an idea as to where this story could end up, but with this twist, who can really be sure where it's going anymore? So interesting...
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Old 2007-07-26, 13:37   Link #469
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shocking...
chapter 28 ~
Spoiler:
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Old 2007-07-26, 14:15   Link #470
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Spoiler for ch 28:
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Old 2007-07-26, 19:39   Link #471
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I dont think its all that shocking or that uncommen.

Spoiler for KNJ Chapter 28 Usa & Rin:


*looks at Renji's plans and wonders if he is compleatly sane*
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Old 2007-07-27, 07:39   Link #472
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@GammaRed's spoiler
There's a lot of truth there. I gotta admit it: same goes for boys, too... 'cept there's lots more porn involved (maybe... )

It's just bugging me: maybe Watashiya's going a *bit* too far with the fan-service now. If the previous chapters rocked the socks off the crowd in ANN and nixed SSE's license of KnJ, Chapter 27 and 28 pretty much kills any hope for KnJ to hit Western shores...

But if her whole point is to tread the fine line separating seinen+loli versus shoujo (as well as porn versus mainstream), then she's doing a bang-up job, IMHO.
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Old 2007-07-27, 09:59   Link #473
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Oh I totaly agree... the last 2 chappters of KNJ have pusshed the limits of wot the west can accsept in manga. I dont beleave that it will ever get a translation, and my hopes for the anime adaptation to be made in to something that would come to DVD only in the West is just as unlikely.

I am really enjoying the char interaction, and the moveing of relasionships to difrent levels. IE Usa seeing a side of Rin that Rin tends to hide. Renji and his plan...
Spoiler for Renji:


and that line you speak of, yes, she is walking it very closely and well.
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Old 2007-07-27, 15:46   Link #474
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I ranted to a friend about it just yesterday.. The story interests me, but regular scenes are suddenly turned into something overly sexual and fanservicey, and that bothers me because it's dragged out so *much*. Like the Vaporub scene, it could've been drawn that we could briefly see that Reiji was interested in Rin's chest while applying it to her (and then continuing with his thoughts outside the room) instead of making it include a porno-esque struggle at the beginning. It really wouldn't have even been necessary to show and censor Rin's chest at all -- it could've been shown that she's starting to develop through Reiji's thoughts or visually through Rin's shirt. This is all my own opinion...

No comment about the RinxUsa scene...
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Old 2007-07-27, 15:54   Link #475
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I'm going to concede that I'm starting to get a little disappointed in what is starting to look like some "edgy" material for purely sensational purposes.

I spent a lot of energy defending this story and would be pretty aggravated if it wasted the literary potential in exchange for a shallow direction.
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Old 2007-07-27, 15:55   Link #476
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i would agree that westerners with their high sense of justice would absolutely have a field day with a scene like this...oh the irony that is intended to show how renji is noticing that her little girl is not so little anymore ~ in a sick twisted way but interesting nonetheless :3 but it does happen in some real circumstances...

ahh i cant remember how old since my mum last rubbed some vaporub on my back when i had a fever as a chibi...the good o' times
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Old 2007-07-27, 16:34   Link #477
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Aye... I'm sure there's a pack of dads in the world that went to put the Vix Vaporub on their daughter only to discover it probably wasn't such a good idea anymore :\
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Old 2007-07-27, 18:44   Link #478
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A little distraction:

I've been searching "Kodomo no Jikan" over at ANN... and guess what I found?

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Kodomo no Jikan (manga by Akira Goto)
Related anime: A Forbidden Time (OAV) (adaptation) (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ency...me.php?id=6267)

Alternative title:
こどもの時間 (Japanese)
Age rating: Adults only! (Contains explicit sexual content)
Number of tankoubon: 3
Number of pages: 196
Vintage: 2000-12-19
Releases: We have 3
In the news 3 times:
2006-07-04 - AX 2006 Licensing Roundup
2006-07-02 - Seven Seas Entertainment Licenses
2004-02-27 - New Shoujo Manga Magazine for Boys
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ency...ga.php?id=6808

Wth? There's ANOTHER KnJ manga out there? And this one's porn? o_O;
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Old 2007-07-27, 18:52   Link #479
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The Kodomo no Jikan manga isn't by Akira Goto and the title isn't written with any kanji (only hiragana) in Japanese. In other words: this is a different Kodomo no Jikan.

The AniDB entry for the same anime has a picture that clearly indicates it has nothing to do with the 2007 series: http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.p...anime&aid=2001 NSFW!
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Old 2007-07-27, 18:53   Link #480
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Yeah.. people doing googling sometimes accidentally end up with that ... thing. It has absolutely nothing to do with our KnJ and looky....

Once again ANN F*cks it up by confusing the two title by mixing the data and news items. So either they're even more incompetent than one might think or once again, they're intentionally slandering the more recent title.

I don't visit AHN anymore --- perhaps someone who does might notfiy them they have factually incorrect data or edit it or whatever, just to see if they correct it.
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