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Old 2007-08-19, 00:56   Link #41
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I'm non-religious myself, I wouldn't consider myself an atheist though, as I don't believe nor disbelieve as to whether God or gods exist or not. I am more neutral on the subject and realize the possibilities that can go either way.
I concur. That's how I see things too.
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I was Christian until about 6 or so months ago when I just lost the complete purpose of it and felt like it was just another way to control someone, but I came to the conclusion that no one really knows or not if there is anything. And the way I see it, you can't prove or disprove it, so I'm (according to Wikipedia) an Agnostic Theist...or would that be an Apathetic Agnostic?
This is why I just call myself an agnostic and leave it at that.
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Old 2007-08-19, 01:14   Link #42
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I'm non-religious myself, I wouldn't consider myself an atheist though, as I don't believe nor disbelieve as to whether God or gods exist or not. I am more neutral on the subject and realize the possibilities that can go either way.
This would be a very vague definition of agnostic.
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Old 2007-08-19, 01:19   Link #43
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Mostly I find there's simply no evidence for a sky-god (or any other god) especially after 50 years of some extensive study of a variety of religions and philosophical study, so I'm probably closer to the Richard Dawkins viewpoint (ref: The God Delusion). Existentialism aside (everything I know being filtered through terrible sensory input and mapped onto suspicious world models in my head), the scientific Method is still the cleanest way to deal with Reality.

On the other hand, I find that animism/pantheism (or more specifically, Shinto) is a colorful metaphor for the world -- I always feel more connected after visiting a shrine so I'm probably getting rewarded by the hypothalmus or some related brain structure.
Practically speaking for myself, Zen Buddhism at its sparest is a useful philosophy to intrepret and get through life with. The more doctrine or "crap" you layer on the direct 'mystical' experience, the less likely people are to encounter it.
So ... basically I'm an atheist who finds the non-oppressive components of certain beliefs useful and comforting. I'd certainly hate it if the shrines and temples in Japan and other locales went abandoned.
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Old 2007-08-19, 01:21   Link #44
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im a Buddhist though i do sorta believe in christianity because if i dont my friend said ill go to hell so i might as well just to be safe
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Old 2007-08-19, 01:28   Link #45
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I wouldn't label myself as anything though If I had to it would be agnostic.

I used to be a Mormon but church puts me to sleep lol.
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Old 2007-08-19, 01:32   Link #46
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This would be a very vague definition of agnostic.
Yea, I didn't actually know if there was a word for it or not. Now that I know, I would consider myself agnostic.
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Old 2007-08-19, 02:01   Link #47
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im a Buddhist though i do sorta believe in christianity because if i dont my friend said ill go to hell so i might as well just to be safe
You can't be half-Christian. Either you are or either you're not. At least in the eyes of most Christian authorities (which are comprised mostly of zealous bigotry).

And your friend can't determine a thing about your future, nor can any religious person. What happens after you die is up to your own belief, and there's the gist of it. No religion has actually the true answer. If you say that you're not going to hell even if you're not a Christian, it holds as much value as your friend's words. You may even believe hell is actually a pretty place and Satan a nice guy, and it would still hold the same value as any other religious statement.
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Old 2007-08-19, 02:29   Link #48
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Um, I don't know how I'm going to put this, but as for my religion, well, here's a quote from Stephen Hawking that sums it up quite nicely:

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Either God started the big bang, or he created the universe in such a way that it made it seem as though there was a big bang.
If there's a specific word/term/school of thought that captures the essence of this quote, I have yet to come across it. However, if you do know something of that sort do enlighten me kkex ^^"
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Old 2007-08-19, 02:50   Link #49
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wow looks like I'm the first Muslim
Me too

Praying 5 times a day and fasting during Ramadhan...
But i'm far away from those "extreme" muslims in Afghan/Iraq, Islam's a peaceful religion and i think they're kinda wrong...
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Old 2007-08-19, 03:02   Link #50
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You can find asshats in any belief system as well as good people.

I have a pet theory (poorly validated) that younger religions tend to have more severe extremism at the fringe because they're just insecure about being newer. (look at Christianity and Judaism in their younger expansionist days) ... but some people have used religion to justify horrible violence as far back as you want to go. Defanging and cloistering the wingnuts is tough when moderate people are.. well... moderate.
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Old 2007-08-19, 03:27   Link #51
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Old 2007-08-19, 03:56   Link #52
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I'm not in any religion, they're a pain to practice and are mostly nonsense. I believe in a deity, but her worshippers would be considered more of a cult.
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Old 2007-08-19, 04:05   Link #53
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I tend to dislike religion in general, because a lot of the times it is just another barrier that tends to cause cracks between people. I am perfectly fine with people who believe in god or any other form of deities, just so long as they are not trying to force their views on others or use their religion as a base of justification for their acts. (Can anyone say crusades ?). Yep, i have a problem with extremes

As such, i am an atheist through and through. I do not believe in supernatural and prefer a rational and scientific approach to things. That said, i think people can believe in anything they want to, as long as it is not having a negative influence on anything else
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Old 2007-08-19, 04:08   Link #54
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Tao here. Some say it is a religion, it was on an application form that i had to fill out once, and some don't.

So what is left? Hindu, sikh, tribal religions, jedi
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Old 2007-08-19, 04:19   Link #55
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Me too

Praying 5 times a day and fasting during Ramadhan...
But i'm far away from those "extreme" muslims in Afghan/Iraq, Islam's a peaceful religion and i think they're kinda wrong...
Third.

Greets from Malaysia.

Agreed with Vexx. In every religion, there's bound to be some bastards that are so vocal in their action, its revolting.
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Old 2007-08-19, 04:54   Link #56
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Old 2007-08-19, 05:46   Link #57
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All right Sides, the Hindu is here. Yeah i'm Hindu but just want to put this forth. What are you if you occasionally doubt your religion but in the end you stick by it for ( i don't know why).
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Old 2007-08-19, 06:19   Link #58
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Either God started the big bang, or he created the universe in such a way that it made it seem as though there was a big bang.
If there's a specific word/term/school of thought that captures the essence of this quote, I have yet to come across it. However, if you do know something of that sort do enlighten me kkex ^^"
First of all, I don't think labels are necessary nor helpful. But judging from the quote alone, it would vaguely imply Theism of some sort -- a need for an intelligent creator if nothing else.
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Old 2007-08-19, 06:21   Link #59
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Wow that is almost exactly what happen to my friend.
Oh I see, where are you from?
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Old 2007-08-19, 06:42   Link #60
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Seems like there is a high ratio of Atheists/Agnostics. I wonder if this is a high concentration these days in most areas? Not to be direct, I find a lot of Atheists within our group - anime otaku.
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