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View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 21 Rating
Perfect 10 11 25.00%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 18 40.91%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 10 22.73%
7 out of 10 : Good 4 9.09%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 2.27%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2007-08-19, 11:52   Link #21
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Ugh, this is starting to look like episode 17 again. They've dispersed their forces too much and are being defeated in detail. They've already managed to lose a quarter of their effectives. Hopefully they've massed enough combat power somewhere to achieve at least a local victory.

Why can't Hayate be competent?
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Old 2007-08-19, 11:53   Link #22
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Old 2007-08-19, 11:54   Link #23
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From Subaru's monologue, she's fully aware of what her IS is and also able to use it at will.
Of course, as she wouldn't want to kill Ginga, she specifically expresses that she can't use it against Ginga.
(Also the IS name "振動破砕" seems to be official, as Subaru used that term herself)
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Old 2007-08-19, 11:54   Link #24
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Yay, casualties !!! I hope for the best now

Can't wait for nico to get the Ep. up.

BTW nothing about those who went to Scaglietti's Lab?
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Old 2007-08-19, 11:54   Link #25
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Understandable... But they really have to handle quite a lot of ground... Whew. It must really suck to have too few powerful enough mages.
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Old 2007-08-19, 11:55   Link #26
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Yay, casualties !!! I hope for the best now

Can't wait for nico to get the Ep. up.

BTW nothing about those who went to Scaglietti's Lab?
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Old 2007-08-19, 11:57   Link #27
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Ugh, this is starting to look like episode 17 again. They've split up their forces too much and are being defeated in detail. They've already managed to lose a quarter of their effectives. Hopefully they've massed enough combat power somewhere to achieve at least a local victory.
But if I were on Scagletti's side, that's exactly the situation I would try to force the Riot 6 into... If they have to go chase 3 different targets, is it their fault that they have to be split up, or my good planning? After all, they cant sacrifice any of the 3 locations, so Scagletti starts of literally dictating the arena. it's all up to the good guys to make do with it.

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Old 2007-08-19, 11:58   Link #28
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Quote for Truth. You just can't get rid of them...
This is not entirely true..
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Old 2007-08-19, 11:59   Link #29
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Dangit, niconico, update. >_<

Only Ep21 Part A is up. T_T
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Old 2007-08-19, 11:59   Link #30
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I don't think the Wolkies could afford getting killed now.
It's not like they can be rebooted; even when the Book of Darkness was still rampant.
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This is not entirely true..
As long as the Linker Core survives, with some effort, Hayate can regenerate them as seen in A's. I think.
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Old 2007-08-19, 12:02   Link #32
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As long as the Linker Core survives, with some effort, Hayate can regenerate them as seen in A's. I think.
It's specifically stated that they can't do that anymore because of mulfunction of Wolkenlitter system, in EP19 (iirc).
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It's specifically stated that they can't do that anymore because of mulfunction of Wolkenlitter system, in EP19 (iirc).
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Old 2007-08-19, 12:13   Link #34
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In any case. Since Signum's already Unisoned, Any sign of Zest? What about Hayate and Nanoha? The fleet?
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Old 2007-08-19, 12:19   Link #35
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But if I were on Scagletti's side, that's exactly the situation I would try to force the Riot 6 into... If they have to go chase 3 different targets, is it their fault that they have to be split up, or my good planning? After all, they cant sacrifice any of the 3 locations, so Scagletti starts of literally dictating the arena. it's all up to the good guys to make do with it.
Yes, it is definitely RF6's fault. Better to mass enough combat power to gain one objective than to provide inadequate forces for multiple objectives and fail. The targets can't be that time sensitive. RF6 had all of the time between the end of episode 17 and episode 20. That means they don't need to attack all three at once.

If going after all three objectives at once is what Jail is expecting, then RF6 is completely conceding the element of surprise. Concentrating on one or two objectives at a time lets them mass more combat power in those locations and takes advantage of the way Jail split his forces. Jail's defensive dispositions have issues as well since he is trying to defend all three locations without any substantial reserves. His forces are vulnerable to being pinned in place by limited holding attacks while RF6's main forces concentrate on the main objectives.

Splitting their forces evenly is one of the worst things each side could possibly do.
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In any case. Since Signum's already Unisoned, Any sign of Zest? What about Hayate and Nanoha? The fleet?
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Old 2007-08-19, 12:20   Link #37
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Old 2007-08-19, 12:21   Link #38
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Yes, it is definitely their fault. Better to mass enough combat power to gain one objective than to provide inadequate forces for multiple objectives and fail. The targets can't be that time sensitive. RF6 had all of the time between the end of episode 17 and episode 20. That means they don't need to attack all three at once.

If going after all three objectives at once is what Jail is expecting, then they are completely conceding the element of surprise. Concentrating on one or two objectives at a time lets them mass more combat power in those locations and takes advantage of the way Jail split his forces. If they had the combat power to do it, they could send a bare minimum of forces to the remaining targets to pin Jail's forces in place using holding attacks.

Splitting their forces evenly is one of the worst things they could possibly do.
Agreed.

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Old 2007-08-19, 12:25   Link #39
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Yes, it is definitely RF6's fault. Better to mass enough combat power to gain one objective than to provide inadequate forces for multiple objectives and fail. The targets can't be that time sensitive.
The cradle is time sensitive. If it reaches it's target location, it's game over. It's got an extremely powerful AMF field (when Nanoha and Vita land in it, their magic gets canceled and they start falling to the deck - Nanoha has to expend extra power to even continue flying). The fowards and the other personel obviously can't operate under this condition, so who else can they send to the Cradle?
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