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View Poll Results: Lucky Star - Episode 20 Rating
Perfect 10 38 44.71%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 29 34.12%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 13 15.29%
7 out of 10 : Good 3 3.53%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 1.18%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 1.18%
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Old 2007-08-21, 02:46   Link #61
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Someone mentioned the hands seeming poorly done last week, and since I particularly loved the hands in episode 1, I looked carefully this week. I find the way hands are blobby but extremely well animated once they move very interesting. I think this is part of the visual structure of the show, one of the ways Yamakan came up with to keep costs down while still providing occasional KyoAni awesomeness.
I've heard of foot fetish, but could this be the beginning of a new brand of hand fetish?

Really the only thing I've noticed in terms of animation fluctuation is sometimes the faces get a little weird, nothing overtly Yashigani, but....weird. If your looking for something where the artstyle flucuates in distinctive manners to create visual symbolism (arguably in a good way) you'd probably want to check out Gurren-Lagann, which has an art style that shifts in and out of various forms of exposure, lighting and colour palletes depending on the mood of the scene. It's kind of like when you get the one random scene in Lucky Star that's animated differently from the usual pastel style, only with different atmosphere and quite a bit longer.

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Old 2007-08-21, 02:54   Link #62
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Minami is a naturally caring person, but Yutaka is the only one who sees it. Yutaka is the kind of person you want to care for. They fit together like a hand in a glove.
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Old 2007-08-21, 02:55   Link #63
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Exactly ^^
I hope something nice will happen in future episodes
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Old 2007-08-21, 03:44   Link #64
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In Asian countries, the bonds between girls are strong. Girls spill their guts to each other, take bath together, and hold hands while shopping. Sleeping together or adjust each other's bra is common place. This is just between normal girls.

The split between sexes is also greater during the teenage years. Many girls won't have a friend of opposite sex until way after high school. Unpopular girls like Yutaka, lacking attention from the guys, often seek out other girls for emotional support and form interdependence with each other; usually they seek out types of girls they'd wish to be themselves, and develop an admiration which is similar to romantic love to outsiders. Some girls will even open admit they're a "couple", which is most of the time code word for best friends. This is also not uncommon.

When a girl develop relationship like this, it really doesn't mean they're gay. Many of these girls do not see their female "love interest" as the same as a boy friend, and very few will actually admit they ONLY like girls. I think when you go that far, you are indeed an lesbian. Girls like Yutaka still likes men, and will accept a boyfriend if a guy shows interest. But for her developing emotions, Minami is her safe place where she can freely show affection without feeling self-conscious. In many girl-only schools around Asia, these type of relationship is quite common place (as Marimite fans know); however, great majority of them will end up being raging heterosexual by the time the graduate from high school. A few will discover they're actually gay, and stay that way.

I'm not sure what kind of girl Yutaka really is, but at this point, I am quite comfortable with her "affair" with Minami. This is just a puppy love that's somewhat common between girls in Asian societies. If you grew up in the West and adopted its homophobic tendencies, don't judge so fast. The girls are not yet and probably will never be real life Yuris. They're just very, very comfortable being with each together, that is all.
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Old 2007-08-21, 04:44   Link #65
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Old 2007-08-21, 05:32   Link #66
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That was a particularly 'Aaahhh. Sweet' moment.

Other thoughts:-

Haruhi-cola... Possibly more a parody of soft drink commercials than anything else.

Has Shirashi gone to make himself taller?

Loved the AIR references. We need more Daisuke Ono. No idea what he's actually like, but just the way he was portrayed here was brilliant. If they have a shot where he's standing at a Ramen stall shouting 'RAMEN SETTO!' that would work.

Psst. Takumi2k4... I think you mean the other guy called Tomokazu...

But... Can we have some new ED sequences please?
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Old 2007-08-21, 06:51   Link #67
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It was with great irony that I had been wondering to myself what manner of random animation quirk would they showcase in this episode and lo and behold, they give us a 3D-animated housefly and mosquito...

"Red Marble... Red Marble~..."

Makes me wonder whether they are practising techniques for future projects.

Hmm...
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Old 2007-08-21, 07:13   Link #68
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Konata: "All the male otakus say, they want a girlfriend who shares their otaku interests, or so they say on the message boards. But you never hear female otakus wanting to date an otaku, you know?"

I can almost hear the pin dropping with all the subtlety of a wrecking ball in otaku message boards worldwide. That's my favourite quote from this episode; had me laughing out loud.

Rest of the episode was quite fun too. While Patricia Martin does indeed sound cute, I actually find Misao's "accent" cuter.
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Old 2007-08-21, 07:25   Link #69
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Konata: "All the male otakus say, they want a girlfriend who shares their otaku interests, or so they say on the message boards. But you never hear female otakus wanting to date an otaku, you know?"

I can almost hear the pin dropping with all the subtlety of a wrecking ball in otaku message boards worldwide. That's my favourite quote from this episode; had me laughing out loud.

Rest of the episode was quite fun too. While Patricia Martin does indeed sound cute, I actually find Misao's "accent" cuter.
LOL!!! Makes me wanna see the subs quickly!

Maybe unless the guy otaku buys otaku stuff for the girl otaku they can get along well. BTW in Genshiken Oguie and Sasahara are both Otaku's and their dating Konata "WINK"

Yep...Yep...Patty or Misao VA? I knew this would come soon Misao voice is the cutest among all the girls imho. Ever since the first time she said "Oi Hiiragi" that took me to like her even more. But I also like Patty since her ASSETS over throws Miyuki BIG TIME
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XD... I loved the lines from this episode...

"ITS HARE HARE DANCE OF SWEETS!"

"Im sure the mosquitoes understand the situation here" XDDDD

XDDDD and Konata with Kagami scene at those Dating Sims. XD.

And also the scene where they realise Miyuki and Minami are neighbors. That scene was utter win.

Oh and, is it just me, or is the 2nd mosquito that bit Konata's dad... Kinda resembled Aedes mosquito?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aedes
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Old 2007-08-21, 08:54   Link #71
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Ahaha, lol, I did screw up! I meant Sugita, not Seki! LOL! You can blame me for marathoning(if that's a word) FMP: The Second Raid earlier that day.

I've heard that Yutaka Yamamoto, that dude who left KyoAni after ep4, is coming back to direct ep23, any truth to this?
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Old 2007-08-21, 08:57   Link #72
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Perfet 10 to this episode - Too much moe.

Gawd. Yutaka in Minami's lap gived me a Yuri-nosebleed. And that Daisuke Ono KILLED ME! Akira-sama always have the best company (Shiraishi FTW and Daisuke Ono... Hehehehehe). Shiraishi as cheerleader, my gawd.

This is getting so damn awesome.
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Old 2007-08-21, 09:01   Link #73
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hehe yea some great lines this ep. really liked this ep but then again I actually like all the LS eps so far

and yay for everyone in a yukata

also balsamic vinegar ROFL!!!! thats why I love Tsukasa-chan
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Old 2007-08-21, 10:54   Link #74
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The split between sexes is also greater during the teenage years. Many girls won't have a friend of opposite sex until way after high school. Unpopular girls like Yutaka, lacking attention from the guys, often seek out other girls for emotional support and form interdependence with each other; usually they seek out types of girls they'd wish to be themselves, and develop an admiration which is similar to romantic love to outsiders. Some girls will even open admit they're a "couple", which is most of the time code word for best friends. This is also not uncommon.
Although my experience with Japanese culture specifically is limited to otaku materials and common knowledge that does make a lot of sense. From my studies in political science, history and sociology this type of behavior is more common in countries that have a less open sexual society in the early years. Growing up in modern America you are exposed early and often to cultural mores and norms that do not discourage early development of relations with the opposite sex. But from a historical perspective, many cultures frowned upon this, which forced youth of that culture to seek out relationships with those of the same sex that were more acceptable to the culture. This doesn't mean that they were homosexual or that they would end up having long term romantic relationships, but people naturally seek out others, and in some cultures the youth have little choice.

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I just actually thought about Kanon after that scene and realised that it kinda did make sense why none of the main female characters had boyfriends.
Well I would say Kanon is a bit different, each of the heroines has a very good reason why they would be single. However Kanon is more of an exception, when you look at other, more standard dating sim adaptations that have your laundry list of stereotypical characters.
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Lots of Internet cookies to AVPlaya and Calawain for actually understanding what is going on with those sorts of relationships and explaining them.
Nonetheless, resign yourselves to explaining it over and over and over and....
(staples to 'wall of what should be common knowledge' next to cousin-romance and other topics)

Review of ep 20: I found myself smiling the entire episode. It was a very "Peanuts"-ish structure (lots of 4-koma strung together).
Great seeing all the girls in all their colorful yukata... and like the collision of beautiful festival imagery with the nasty reality of mosquito.

My spine shatters from cute-overload everytime Misao says anything. o.. my... god....

Love Dad's reaction to Kona threatening to follow in his and Kanata's footsteps and make "her own memories"

I swear they're making me happy-insane with all the money-shots of Kagami in her summer wear. The way she sits and moves is wonderfully drawn and animated.

Gave the episode a 10...... I really had nothing to complain about since even the Haruhi commercial poked fun at the commercialism: very hyper-self-referential. They also really took extra time to trout-slap the otaku this episode --- its almost like watching Don Rickles get applause for haranguing and abusing his audience.
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Old 2007-08-21, 13:12   Link #76
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...I've heard that Yutaka Yamamoto, that dude who left KyoAni after ep4, is coming back to direct ep23, any truth to this?
Not exactly. He is listed as co-writer of ep23, along with Machida Douko, the lead writer. This could just be crediting him with work he had done before he left, but a couple of things have made some of us think he might actually be back with KyoAni: there was a joke line a couple of eps back that repeated what was said in the announcement of his departure (about "not having reached the level" of something), and he was also listed as co-writer of ep10.

My own method for getting mosquitoes is to hold out your arm, wait for them to settle and start poking around for a spot, then slap. I've heard of the flex your arm thing, but have never tried it.
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Old 2007-08-21, 13:18   Link #77
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Well I would say Kanon is a bit different, each of the heroines has a very good reason why they would be single. However Kanon is more of an exception, when you look at other, more standard dating sim adaptations that have your laundry list of stereotypical characters.
Well, yeah. Kanon is just the first that came to my mind. Although not quite a traditional dating sim, (at least) one of the Harvest Moon series games, the girls can get a boyfriend that isn't you(the player), which I thought was interesting.
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Old 2007-08-21, 14:38   Link #78
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LOL!!! Makes me wanna see the subs quickly!

Maybe unless the guy otaku buys otaku stuff for the girl otaku they can get along well. BTW in Genshiken Oguie and Sasahara are both Otaku's and their dating Konata "WINK"
yes, but they know each other in real life, she didn't post on a forum asking to date an otaku


imho Konata asking that question was priceless, it's like she can read my mind or something

special mention for Haruhi... I was waiting for season 2... now I'm craving

and by the way... in the last frames of the ED, we can see 2 guys climbing that path behind Minoru.... I wonder what were they thinking after seeing that performance?
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My spine shatters from cute-overload everytime Misao says anything. o.. my... god....
I'll have to agree with you on this one, her seiyu is great. That kind of feeling overcame me first in the episode (I don't recall the number) with the three second rule. Overall the seiyu casting for the show is excellent, and incorporates many that I've never heard from before. There's something to be said for finding great new talent.
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Old 2007-08-21, 16:47   Link #80
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yep Misao is just too cute period, its like a act of god to torture us with........there are no words to describe it


lol I still can't help but lol when i think about the balsamic vinegar on the fan
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