Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 23 Discussion / Poll

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Cyz

Spoiler:

Did Mach Caliber acted on its own to protect Subaru? Oh and Tea's fight scene is really something. She manage to knocked off 2 Numbers and now she even had the upper hand. As for Shamal and Zafila, looks like they got even from her....forgot her name.

Yup. From the looks of it, MC used Wing Roads to propel itself into a couple of kicks, then it controlled Revolver Knuckle to punch Ginga way (even now I'm still amazed at Maaha Caariba )

And the Number you're referring to is Otto

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

(even now I'm still amazed at Maaha Caariba

Usually, Teana is the brain of the pair. When she's not there, someone has to think, and since it's not Subaru's forte, the role goes to Mach Caliber.

(Note that MC has always been quite talkative -- see e.g. ep 6.)

[S_K]

My understanding wasn't that great but why was quattro calling Vivio "your majesty" or something like that?
Vivio looks so kick ass now
Since when does Subaru have excelion mode
Teana is definetly smart and good
Overall, Great episode, next episode is with Fate, can't wait

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by S_K

My understanding wasn't that great but why was quattro calling Vivio "your majesty" or something like that?

Well, Vivio is the "king". And Quattro is, well, Quattro. She probably said it just to play around with Vivio.

From what I see, anyways.

[X207]

just finished watching the raws and a blog detailing the episode summary. so how many numbers are left again? so far i counted nine, taking into account the new ginga and vivio. those 2 teana took out are they toast now? it seems they're temporarily knocked out to me. i hate that manipulative quattro, i hope she gets knocked off next. hav any of you thought of a way that the numbers could be deprogammed? ie vivio

[Kha]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Tormenk got it correct. That's what Quattro said.
By "Last" I mean last empress. As to why I think she's the last. Well, she wasn't the first, since there was a "Royal Family". Given that the Saint's era was 300 years ago and there seems to have been a huge war with Midchilda within a few generations afterwards, things may have started falling apart right after she left the scene. However she left the scene.
I'm wondering about the title of "the Saint". It is possible it used to be the title of holy kings of Ancient Belka, but she's "THE Saint" now, the others are just "a Saint".

Ah kk... Looks like my buddy's modification of my theory works better.

And to Tormenk: Sorry if I sounded offensive. I'm just frustrated that the Subs are so far behind the critical episodes.

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by X207

just finished watching the raws and a blog detailing the episode summary. so how many numbers are left again? so far i counted nine, taking into account the new ginga and vivio. those 2 teana took out are they toast now? it seems they're temporarily knocked out to me. i hate that manipulative quattro, i hope she gets knocked off next. hav any of you thought of a way that the numbers could be deprogammed? ie vivio

Uno-With Scaglietti
Due-Who knows...
Tre-With Scaglietti
Quattro-Having fun watching the death match between Vivio and Nanoha
Cinque-Still missing, maybe still in repairs
Sein-With Schach, no idea what's going on over there, conscious
Sette-With Scaglietti
Otto-Captured by Shamal and the wolf/dog (Zafira)
Nove-Conscious, rollerskates have been damaged
Dieci-Binded, defeated by Super Nanoha
Uendi-Unconscious, defeated by Teana
Deed-Unconscious, defeated by Teana
Number 13-I think she's still alive... It looked pretty painful..., defeated by Mach Calibar.

Deprogram? I don't think they were controlled in the first place. I don't think they can be reverted back into a human, either.

[Tormenk]

@Kha: no worries dude.

I prefer the English subs too for better understanding since I'm half a banana.

If anyone wants, I could translate a short part of the episode like what Quattro was saying to Nanoha. No guarantee for 100% accuracy since my grasp of the chinese subs is shaky at best.

btw, does this end Vice's comeback? Shooting at drones from a heli?

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by Kha

Last in line? Last Empress or last Marine?

More like I NEED A FRIGGIN TRANSLATION OF QUATTRO'S CHATTING! :grumble:

:scared: Erm...tell me which part is Quattro's chatting and I'll translate for you?

EDIT: Done

Spoiler:

-Nanoha enters:
Welcome. I have been waiting here for long. Thank you for running here for nothing. However, your comrades who are fighting in other places are in a big pinch.
-Shows screens
Nanoha: I'm arresting you for large scale rioting. I command you to stop the riot and unarm yourself.
Quattro: You can execute your mission so calmly even in the face of your comrades and daughter are in such danger? That's nice, this devilish sense of justice.
-Touches Vivio, Divine buster'ed
Quattro: However, I wonder if you can keep your calm if I do this?
-Shocks Vivio
Quattro: Let me tell you something good. When she was sleeping in the the case, it was her who destroyed the truck and the gadget drone. And the bombardment from Deici you blocked with all your might can be easilly survived by Vivio no matter what. That is the inherit skill of the ancient Belka Royal Families, the Holy King's armor. Through the fusion of relic, this child call back this power completely. Ancient Belka royals are the ultimate weapons through self-modification, they have the power of the relic based weapons.
-Vivio screams out for Nanoha and vice versa
Quattro: It will be completed soon. Our King got the power of the cradle, the ultimate warrior with unlimited power.
-Vivio gets naked
Quattro: There there your majesty, you can't cry like that all the time. Nanoha mama is waiting for you to save her. And the scary devil there is the one who took away your mama. Do you best in taking her out, and save your real mama. Your majesty's body has the power just for this. Listen to your heart's voice and release this power.
-Vivio transforms
Quattro: If you can stop this child, maybe this cradle can also stop? Now, mother and daughter, kill each other.

[Nvis]

Question!

Why isn't the Asura joining in the battles? It should be armed and at least provide cover fire for Hayate's group.

[Kha]

Thanks for the translation! I see how it relates to my theory better now!

Originally Posted by Nvis

Question!

Why isn't the Asura joining in the battles? It should be armed and at least provide cover fire for Hayate's group.

Well... so far, the only gun we've seen is the Arc-en-ciel, not the flashy CIWS tracer flares and battleship guns of Gundam lore, and 7Arcs seems to want to keep it that way.

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

Originally Posted by iamandragon

:scared: Erm...tell me which part is Quattro's chatting and I'll translate for you?

EDIT: Done

Spoiler:

-Nanoha enters:
Welcome. I have been waiting here for long. Thank you for running here for nothing. However, your comrades who are fighting in other places are in a big pinch.
-Shows screens
Nanoha: I'm arresting you for large scale rioting. I command you to stop the riot and unarm yourself.
Quattro: You can execute your mission so calmly even in the face of your comrades and daughter are in such danger? That's nice, this devilish sense of justice.
-Touches Vivio, Divine buster'ed
Quattro: However, I wonder if you can keep your calm if I do this?
-Shocks Vivio
Quattro: Let me tell you something good. When she was sleeping in the the case, it was her who destroyed the truck and the gadget drone. And the bombardment from Deici you blocked with all your might can be easilly survived by Vivio no matter what. That is the inherit skill of the ancient Belka Royal Families, the Holy King's armor. Through the fusion of relic, this child call back this power completely. Ancient Belka royals are the ultimate weapons through self-modification, they have the power of the relic based weapons.
-Vivio screams out for Nanoha and vice versa
Quattro: It will be completed soon. Our King got the power of the cradle, the ultimate warrior with unlimited power.
-Vivio gets naked
Quattro: There there your majesty, you can't cry like that all the time. Nanoha mama is waiting for you to save her. And the scary devil there is the one who took away your mama. Do you best in taking her out, and save your real mama. Your majesty's body has the power just for this. Listen to your heart's voice and release this power.
-Vivio transforms
Quattro: If you can stop this child, maybe this cradle can also stop? Now, mother and daughter, kill each other.

I liked the last quote given by Quattro in her speech to Nanoha...now I'm wondering if Nanoha has the guts to defeat Vivio and still save her at the same time while blasting away Cradle with Quattro in it. (seems like the main villain has changed...Quattro seems more evil than Scaglietti in these final moments of the final battle)

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by kha

so far, the only gun we've seen is the Arc-en-ciel, not the flashy CIWS tracer flares and battleship guns of Gundam lore,

Not to mention, there are mages all over the area. If the Asura starts firing anti-ship cannons indiscriminately, it could hurt their forces more than the Cradle.

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

now I'm wondering if Nanoha has the guts to defeat Vivio and still save her at the same time while blasting away Cradle with Quattro in it.

Ever since I watched ep23, I've been imagining Nanoha leading Vivio on a merry chase throughout the Cradle, letting Vivio blast the ship to pieces while trying to nail her. It would certainly knock down several birds with one stone. Especially if she could reach the bridge.

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Ever since I watched ep23, I've been imagining Nanoha leading Vivio on a merry chase throughout the Cradle, letting Vivio blast the ship to pieces while trying to nail her. It would certainly knock down several birds with one stone. Especially if she could reach the bridge.

yea now that would be interesting...since Nanoha has already reached the throne room, and Vivio is all "mama kill mode", she can lead Vivio into the generator room where Vita was supposedly to be there. And I think by now, Nanoha knows that Vita is in critical condition and doing this tactic would be smart on her part. Although since its Quattro controlling Vivio (or is she not in control...sorry haven't seen this episode yet, just the two main fights...), Quattro would be more smart not to let that happen.

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

I liked the last quote given by Quattro in her speech to Nanoha...now I'm wondering if Nanoha has the guts to defeat Vivio and still save her at the same time while blasting away Cradle with Quattro in it. (seems like the main villain has changed...Quattro seems more evil than Scaglietti in these final moments of the final battle)

Absolutely, at the double. Look what she's done to Fate and Vita in season one and two. And furthermore, this is her daughter! She'll do more than just 'befriending'

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

well this is still a "mahou shoujo" genre, so I don't think we'll get a very bad ending...although there are some who think that Vivio isn't in the description of the upcoming episode 26 = she died saving Nanoha and Vita while crashing Cradle somewhere...

But seeing Vivio in this form, I don't think I would want her to be killed in anyway now...she looks pretty cool, and copying Nanoha's hairstyle at the same time. But I have a feeling that she'll revert herself back to being 5 years old if she gets saved by Nanoha....

[Tormenk]

If Vivio lives, I want her to stay in her current form. Teen-Vivio over chibi-Vivio anyday. Provided she lives of course.

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

well this is still a "mahou shoujo" genre, so I don't think we'll get a very bad ending...although there are some who think that Vivio isn't in the description of the upcoming episode 26 = she died saving Nanoha and Vita while crashing Cradle somewhere...

But seeing Vivio in this form, I don't think I would want her to be killed in anyway now...she looks pretty cool, and copying Nanoha's hairstyle at the same time. But I have a feeling that she'll revert herself back to being 5 years old if she gets saved by Nanoha....

Since Vivio is the owner, it'll be funny if she has the ship turn around and start shooting at the doctor...

[Tormenk]

Come to think of it, Vivio is the activation key of the Cradle, but is she in actual control of the ship? Or is it the Doctor and Quattro?

[X207]

i think vivio is bound to be saved by nanoha abd revert to her younger form.