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Old 2007-09-02, 19:16   Link #1
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Weird harddrive problem

Recently after my cousin came over and played around with my father's computer I've been getting this weird USB safely removing device symbol on the bottom left hand corner near the time. I can't seem to get rid of it. Every time I click it my harddrive shows up in the little window thing(you know when you plug your Flash drive into your computer and then you want to safely eject it you have to go through the process of safely removing device by clicking on the green arrow thing icon. For me I see my harddrive in it). I can't eject it and I even tried a clean reformat but the problem still occurs. It doesn't affect the computer in anyway but I know it's not suppose to be like that. Does anyone know how I can fix it?
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Old 2007-09-02, 19:29   Link #2
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It should always be there because your hard drive is mostly like a SATA hard drive. At least, it shows up all the time for all my SATA hard drives.
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Old 2007-09-02, 19:31   Link #3
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Right now, I am not to sure. After some research, people seemed to have been told to just ignore it. You can "hide" the icon in your System Tray if you would like. I will keep looking around to see what I can find.

Anyone else have some thoughts?

Edit: After Neutralizer reminded me, I saw some threads on that too. SATA drives showing up in your "Safely Remove Hardware" icon. I saw some kind of update to the Nforce chipset. Here is the thread that talks about this issue - http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windo...t-up-menu.html .
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Old 2007-09-02, 19:54   Link #4
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Yes it is a SATA drive.
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Old 2007-09-03, 17:55   Link #5
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Just out of curiosity...

I got sata drives but the icon I got in the system tray is for the usb device I have. Why would that be associated with sata drives?

I did a clean install a few months ago and before putting any usb devices I never saw that icon in the system tray.
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Old 2007-09-03, 18:54   Link #6
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Just out of curiosity...

I got sata drives but the icon I got in the system tray is for the usb device I have. Why would that be associated with sata drives?

I did a clean install a few months ago and before putting any usb devices I never saw that icon in the system tray.
What kind of chipset do you have? NVidia?



Note that my controller is NForce... It appears that there is some sort of update for this chipset.
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Old 2007-09-04, 00:29   Link #7
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yep have it as well for nforce 430 chipset not really an issue. SATA is hot swappable from what I know (ie it has the same functionality as a USB device). It actually looks like that e-sata (external sata) will eventually replace USB as it has a theoretically higher bandwidth.
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Old 2007-09-04, 13:38   Link #8
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What kind of chipset do you have? NVidia?



Note that my controller is NForce... It appears that there is some sort of update for this chipset.
Intel p965.
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Old 2007-09-04, 20:42   Link #9
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I believe someone might have mentioned this, but I found this thread - http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/5...ted-usb-2.html . It mentions that SATA drives show up in your "Safely Remove Hardware" so you can remove SATA drives safely as they are not hot swappable. I do not know if you are using eSATA, but this could be a feature of your board?
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Old 2007-09-04, 21:49   Link #10
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Recently after my cousin came over and played around with my father's computer I've been getting this weird USB safely removing device symbol on the bottom left hand corner near the time. I can't seem to get rid of it. Every time I click it my harddrive shows up in the little window thing(you know when you plug your Flash drive into your computer and then you want to safely eject it you have to go through the process of safely removing device by clicking on the green arrow thing icon. For me I see my harddrive in it). I can't eject it and I even tried a clean reformat but the problem still occurs. It doesn't affect the computer in anyway but I know it's not suppose to be like that. Does anyone know how I can fix it?
Mine does the same sometimes too, i've just ignored it all this time.
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Old 2007-09-05, 03:01   Link #11
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I believe someone might have mentioned this, but I found this thread - http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/5...ted-usb-2.html . It mentions that SATA drives show up in your "Safely Remove Hardware" so you can remove SATA drives safely as they are not hot swappable. I do not know if you are using eSATA, but this could be a feature of your board?
No I am not using eSata. 1st time I heard of eSata. I did some searching and eSata enables HDD to reside in their own housing outside the computer and be plugged in as required. I am not using this. With that link then sata drivers appearing in usb tray is coz of NVIDIA.

Talking about eSata. How do you use that? I mean what hardware is involved.

Edit: I check in manual: southbridge intel ICH8R -> Should I mentioned this instead of the northbridge? Only northbridge info showed in pcwizard 2007.
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Old 2007-09-05, 15:03   Link #12
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No I am not using eSata. 1st time I heard of eSata. I did some searching and eSata enables HDD to reside in their own housing outside the computer and be plugged in as required. I am not using this. With that link then sata drivers appearing in usb tray is coz of NVIDIA.

Talking about eSata. How do you use that? I mean what hardware is involved.

Edit: I check in manual: southbridge intel ICH8R -> Should I mentioned this instead of the northbridge? Only northbridge info showed in pcwizard 2007.
eSATA is "external" SATA. If your board supports it, you will see an eSATA port on the back of your computer. I have seen this coloured red. Here is a WikiPedia article on SATA that talks about eSATA - WikiPedia - SATA

You only really have to tell us about the Northbridge as the northbridge controls the southbridge.
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Old 2007-09-05, 15:22   Link #13
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I have just found a gigabyte board picture with eSata. 1st time seeing it.

Besides usb and firewire now we have eSata.
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Old 2007-09-05, 17:29   Link #14
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I have just found a gigabyte board picture with eSata. 1st time seeing it.

Besides usb and firewire now we have eSata.
Yeah, but with eSATA, the bus width is much higher - 2400 Mbits.
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Old 2007-09-05, 21:06   Link #15
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I believe someone might have mentioned this, but I found this thread - http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/5...ted-usb-2.html . It mentions that SATA drives show up in your "Safely Remove Hardware" so you can remove SATA drives safely as they are not hot swappable. I do not know if you are using eSATA, but this could be a feature of your board?
SATA is definitely hotswappable, it's one of the advantages over PATA. Windows, as your link posted won't let you remove the boot drive for obvious reasons. But non boot drives are fine.

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/techno...hite_paper.htm
Spoiler for white paper excerpt:

http://www.sata-io.org/docs/serialat...technology.pdf
refer to conclusions section.

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Old 2007-09-05, 23:38   Link #16
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SATA is definitely hotswappable, it's one of the advantages over PATA. Windows, as your link posted won't let you remove the boot drive for obvious reasons. But non boot drives are fine.
It also depends on your hardware. My motherboard supports SATA, but in the manual it states that it does not support the hot-swappable feature of SATA drives. I went for a budget board that's socket 754 (it was cheap!) which probably explains why it doesn't support it; I'd imagine that it's standard on practically all hardware today.
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Old 2007-09-06, 00:13   Link #17
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socket 754? that's so 2003. But you're right the vast majority of current gen motherboards should do (at least those with nvidia and new ATi chipsets, not 100% sure for intel and no idea about SiS and Via chipsets). But may not be he case for older chipsets. What I find is if your motherboard has RAID functionality, it will support it, at least from the 15-20 motherboards I'm looking at for my next uber L33t watercooled gaming PC build.

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Talking about eSata. How do you use that? I mean what hardware is involved.
What is esata?

Well, you need obviously 1 free sata port on your motherboard
1 esata bracket and cable
1 esata cable
1 external HDD supporting esata such as this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817145167
and 1 HDD

he item pictured on the left of this link is basically the esata port.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowIm...rnal+Enclosure
basically the bracket pictured on the left is connected to the SATA port on your motherboard. giving you one esata port. you then put the HDD in the external case, power it up, connect the other esata cable to the back of the enclosure and to the port, Format to NTFS or FAT32 in windows or ext3 in linux and voila, a working esata drive.

You may have to install drivers depending on your O/S but from the 4 I've put in on Windows XP SP2 and Vista systems, there's no need. It just recognises it as a SATA device.

Right now it's only available for HDD storage, however with MP3 players increasing in capacity I wouldn't be surprised if they became commonplace on them too.

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