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Old 2004-03-04, 07:52   Link #1
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Difference between KGNE games

i have just recently been completely hooked by this amazing anime, and i was looking into the KGNE games. but going through all 10 pages of KGNE posts on animesuki, has only made me more confused about the game.

i was wondering if anyone could help me clear up the differences between the 4 versions of the game that i heard about. apparently there is a 2 disk version, a dvd version, a dreamcast version, and a playstation 2 version.

my guess is that the dvd version is exact same thing as the 2 disk version, and the console versions should just be the dvd/2disk versions without the eechi scenes.

although i'm not as interested in seeing the KGNE cast naked as much as i am interested in fully figuring out the story. i do wish to purchase the most 'full' version of the game. so is there one version that has the the entire story, all the features and complete scenes (bascially not lacking anything from other versions)?

it would suck to have to purchase more than 1 version of the game just to get all the features and finally figure out what's going on.
(oh and as a side note, my friend who has the 2 disk version was only able to tell me that his was censored. are all versions like this or 2 disk specific or an import deal?

thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 2004-03-04, 14:57   Link #2
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Originally Posted by KoKennin
i have just recently been completely hooked by this amazing anime, and i was looking into the KGNE games. but going through all 10 pages of KGNE posts on animesuki, has only made me more confused about the game.

i was wondering if anyone could help me clear up the differences between the 4 versions of the game that i heard about. apparently there is a 2 disk version, a dvd version, a dreamcast version, and a playstation 2 version.

my guess is that the dvd version is exact same thing as the 2 disk version, and the console versions should just be the dvd/2disk versions without the eechi scenes.

although i'm not as interested in seeing the KGNE cast naked as much as i am interested in fully figuring out the story. i do wish to purchase the most 'full' version of the game. so is there one version that has the the entire story, all the features and complete scenes (bascially not lacking anything from other versions)?

it would suck to have to purchase more than 1 version of the game just to get all the features and finally figure out what's going on.
(oh and as a side note, my friend who has the 2 disk version was only able to tell me that his was censored. are all versions like this or 2 disk specific or an import deal?

thanks in advance for any help.
-kokennin
In order of release:

1. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien CD-ROM - Original 2-disc release for the PC. Ero-scenes. Released 2001.8

2. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien DC - Dreamcast version. No ero-scenes. Avant-OP sequence added with Kuribayashi Minami's song: "Kaze no Yukue" Released 2002.9

3. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien ~Rumbling Hearts~ - PS2 version. No ero-scenes. Avant-OP sequence different from DC version, song by Kuribayashi Minami "yours" Released 2003.5

4. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien DVD-ROM - remastered edition of CD-ROM version, with added ero-scenes and stories. Avant-OP sequence added with "Blue tears" song which can be played on a DVD player - sung by both Haruka and Mitsuki. Released 2003.7
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Old 2004-03-04, 19:57   Link #3
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In order of release:

1. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien CD-ROM - Original 2-disc release for the PC. Ero-scenes. Released 2001.8

2. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien DC - Dreamcast version. No ero-scenes. Avant-OP sequence added with Kuribayashi Minami's song: "Kaze no Yukue" Released 2002.9

3. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien ~Rumbling Hearts~ - PS2 version. No ero-scenes. Avant-OP sequence different from DC version, song by Kuribayashi Minami "yours" Released 2003.5

4. Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien DVD-ROM - remastered edition of CD-ROM version, with added ero-scenes and stories. Avant-OP sequence added with "Blue tears" song which can be played on a DVD player - sung by both Haruka and Mitsuki. Released 2003.7

wow. thanks for the awesome clear-up. really appreciate it. so i guess the DVD version would be the best buy then.

i also heard that all games imported from japan are censored, so i guess there's no way around that. (unless even the ones in japan are also censored, please correct me if wrong)

thanks
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Old 2004-03-04, 20:18   Link #4
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wow. thanks for the awesome clear-up. really appreciate it. so i guess the DVD version would be the best buy then.

i also heard that all games imported from japan are censored, so i guess there's no way around that. (unless even the ones in japan are also censored, please correct me if wrong)

thanks
You can thank Mr. Douglas MacArthur, the SCAP who was the head of the Japanese government under Allied (US) Occupation right after World War II for that.

Because of him, any material "that shows male/female genitalia visibly are rendered to be illegal" in Japan.

Good thing to censor priceless Edo-period ukiyoe art pictures too.
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Old 2004-03-04, 21:12   Link #5
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You can thank Mr. Douglas MacArthur, the SCAP who was the head of the Japanese government under Allied (US) Occupation right after World War II for that.

Because of him, any material "that shows male/female genitalia visibly are rendered to be illegal" in Japan.

Good thing to censor priceless Edo-period ukiyoe art pictures too.
OMG... so basically EVERYTHING in japan is censored?!? wow. that's crazy. so i should just give up any hopes of getting my hands on a legal uncensored version of kimi ga nozomu eien? wow... even art... -_- i was thinking that it would only be an import thing where american censores were doing it. wow... thanks for the info...

so no uncensored kimi ga ANYWHERE on the earth... -_- how disheartening.

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on further reflection, i've recall *accidentally* downloading some uncensored material before, and i'm somewhat sure that they were released after the WWII occupation. i remember hearing something about censoring everything that comes from Japan, but i still think it's weird that EVERYTHING in Japan would be censored. poor all those lonely and horny men in japan...

it's not that i don't believe you kj1980, you've already been so helpful. i was just wondering if anyone can confirm this and help put my mind at ease so i'm not scouring through every website and porn store from here to japan for the rest of my life trying to find an uncensored KGNE... >.<

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Old 2004-03-05, 03:26   Link #6
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If someone was to buy the game licence to sell in america, they'd probably get around it...
Sorta like hentai you buy in america is uncen, while the Japanese ones ares...
the law is only in Japan, not other countries... (and such a silly law -__-...)
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Old 2004-03-05, 13:12   Link #7
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There is no American version, as no company has licenced distribution rights for North America for any version of the line: PC game, PS game, television series, etc. If you see a censored version of anything for the computer, whether you downloaded the game (naughty!) or physically imported it, it is because it was that way in Japan. Importers don't have the technical skills to modify those programs, and neither any for-profit firm or amateur group has expressed interest in buying access to age's engine and doing so, so if there were a law against uncensored hentai in the US (which there isn't), either the stuff wouldn't be imported, or it would be illegally.

On the other hand, if you see an uncensored hentai or ero game for the computer (or game console, but that will never happen for public relations reasons), it no doubt exists because somebody bought the license and redid the scenes. By corollary, it would be in English (or Chinese would be more likely--and I hear that such things exist both through license and pirating over there, but I may be wrong) and not in Japanese. If you want to see uncut KimiNozo, you'll have to get a software firm to make it for you.

I guess it's also noteworthy that KimiNozo imports are hard to find and get unless you know what you're doing. himeya.com is good, of course, for all software and video games, and there are comparable sites. But Amazon just pulls up half a dozen results for a search on "nozomu eien," and all of them are game music and portrait CDs. I suppose that supplying Japanese-language computer games is considered absurd, even if they aren't borderline pornographic, and as for console games, you need to make [illegal, I think] adjustments to your American systems to even be able to play them. (Who would want to buy them? How many people in this country can even read Japanese? The game is an absurd purchase if you can't, although it is possible to enjoy it if you already have an attachment to the story, whereas foreign language music can be appreciated even without language ability.)
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Old 2004-03-05, 15:44   Link #8
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There is no American version, as no company has licenced distribution rights for North America for any version of the line: PC game, PS game, television series, etc. If you see a censored version of anything for the computer, whether you downloaded the game (naughty!) or physically imported it, it is because it was that way in Japan. Importers don't have the technical skills to modify those programs, and neither any for-profit firm or amateur group has expressed interest in buying access to age's engine and doing so, so if there were a law against uncensored hentai in the US (which there isn't), either the stuff wouldn't be imported, or it would be illegally.

On the other hand, if you see an uncensored hentai or ero game for the computer (or game console, but that will never happen for public relations reasons), it no doubt exists because somebody bought the license and redid the scenes. By corollary, it would be in English (or Chinese would be more likely--and I hear that such things exist both through license and pirating over there, but I may be wrong) and not in Japanese. If you want to see uncut KimiNozo, you'll have to get a software firm to make it for you.

I guess it's also noteworthy that KimiNozo imports are hard to find and get unless you know what you're doing. himeya.com is good, of course, for all software and video games, and there are comparable sites. But Amazon just pulls up half a dozen results for a search on "nozomu eien," and all of them are game music and portrait CDs. I suppose that supplying Japanese-language computer games is considered absurd, even if they aren't borderline pornographic, and as for console games, you need to make [illegal, I think] adjustments to your American systems to even be able to play them. (Who would want to buy them? How many people in this country can even read Japanese? The game is an absurd purchase if you can't, although it is possible to enjoy it if you already have an attachment to the story, whereas foreign language music can be appreciated even without language ability.)
wow. let me get this straight, (once and for all, i realize at this point that i'm either really cautious or really slow - i guess it's a little of both because i'm wary of investing $80 into the game, only to kill myself knowing there was something better i could have gotten out there) there is only a censored version floating out there, and there will only be the censored version despite if i travel to japan and kick one of the executives at Age for one, UNTIL i or someone else spends millions (pure guess) of dollars to buy the licence of the game, and spend weeks to uncensore it. which is PRETTY unlikely.

so this means, i'm only left with, the censored DVD specifications game. which is what i should buy, rite? =)
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Old 2004-03-05, 16:43   Link #9
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Personally I have never played the original version, since it's so hard to come by, I think it's practically impossible to get outside of Japan... and there are some fans insisting on that the original version is the best version... they say that the extra hentai scenes and plots added in the DVD spec version destroy the perfect atmosphere of the original romance story or something... (some even say the original version already have a bit too much hentai stuff for such a heavily romance-oriented story, so the DVD spec version is even worse in this)

I only played the DC version and the DVD spec version, well, I like the DVD spec version... since it got hentai scenes

I don't know about import games being censored... I always think since it's "import" from Japan, it should be the same one available in Japan... I know some licensed hentai games released outside of Japan got censored by their non-Japan publishers, but no one will be able to do the censoring for the import version, the importers obviously lack the resources and skills to do it.

And as far as I know, there are no censored DVD spec version of KGNE, even if you go to Japan and kick all the executives at Age Soft, any DVD spec version available now is uncensored, meaning hentai complete version. Only the console versions are censored. There is no all-age version of KGNE for PC as far as I know. So if you can get your hands on a PC version of KGNE (mostly likely the DVD spec version, and if you are so lucky to get an original verison, maybe you can sell it to one of those diehard KGNE fans for a buckload of money), it's definitely uncensored.
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Old 2004-03-05, 16:49   Link #10
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Go with the DVD Specification..

But beware the install..
The game itself still occupies 1.5GB of my hard drive.
It is in no way a 'small' game.

If you manage to finish the game in a respectable amount of time,
(it took me three days to get my first ending) I'd recommend you
play Muv Luv (I think that's how it's spelled). As an added bonus,
Akane makes a cameo in this game. Although the main characters
look alot like clones of the characters from Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien.

EDIT: Odd.. I remember my DVD Spec. being censored..
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Old 2004-03-05, 17:39   Link #11
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I think he is defining:
censored = game(s) without ero-scenes
uncensored = game(s) with ero-scenes

Whereas the question here that I was implying was:
censored = ero-scenes with mosaic blur in genital insertion
uncensored = ero-scenes without mosaic blur in genital insertion
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Old 2004-03-05, 18:49   Link #12
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so ULTIMATELY (for clarification purposes)...

1) there is NO legal uncensored japanese version of KGNE
2) there will NOT be an uncensored version of KGNE UNTIL someone spends the time and money to buy the license of the game and uncensores it, which is VERY unlikely.
3) the DVD specification version is the best one for me to buy

please someone tell me if i'm right (hearing the words 'you are right' instead of long explainations will helps my assurance). thank you.. ^_^
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Old 2004-03-05, 20:09   Link #13
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so ULTIMATELY (for clarification purposes)...

1) there is NO legal uncensored japanese version of KGNE
2) there will NOT be an uncensored version of KGNE UNTIL someone spends the time and money to buy the license of the game and uncensores it, which is VERY unlikely.
3) the DVD specification version is the best one for me to buy

please someone tell me if i'm right (hearing the words 'you are right' instead of long explainations will helps my assurance). thank you.. ^_^
Yes that is correct. However, I cannot assist you any further on where to buy it from as I have no idea where such games are sold in your country.
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Old 2004-03-05, 20:29   Link #14
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Yes that is correct. However, I cannot assist you any further on where to buy it from as I have no idea where such games are sold in your country.
it's alrite, i've already found a place selling the game. thanks to everyone on this awesome forum for all the help, especially kj1980 ^_^

(for some reason, i feel like i've dragged this thread on WAY longer than it should have been. it even has a flame symbol next to it now... sorry )
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