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View Poll Results: Who is yer favorite grunt!?
GAT-01 Strike Dagger 7 10.45%
GAT-04 Windam 6 8.96%
ZGMF-1017 GINN 4 5.97%
ZGMF-600 GuAIZ 7 10.45%
ZGMF-1000 ZAKU Warrior 13 19.40%
ZGMF-2000 GOUF 7 10.45%
MBF-M1 M1 Astray 4 5.97%
MVF-M11C Murasame 19 28.36%
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Old 2007-10-19, 13:21   Link #21
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Nerfed? No, the first Destroy was quite a monster.

But then Shinn got upgraded to the Destiny, which simply cuts through slow targets like a hot knife through butter.
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Old 2007-10-19, 13:59   Link #22
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I know that, but why make Sword Daggers and stuff(MSV) if they could just change packs.
But they ARE using Striker packs. They just had them equipped with sword packs. They could change if they wanted to.
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Old 2007-10-19, 16:31   Link #23
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The Destroy Gundam. Such a kickass suit that just happened to be on the side that was nerfed into ZAFT's whipping boy...
I always think of the Destroy Gundam as a parody on how quickly the heavily armored battleship concept was swept into the dust bin of military history when aircraft carriers became the supreme projection of naval power on the high seas.
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Old 2007-10-19, 23:12   Link #24
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The ZAKU Warriors are leet.
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Old 2007-10-20, 15:11   Link #25
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ZGMF-1017M2 GINN High Maneuver Type II

Only problem I have with this that there isn't any beam saber and it's a bit bulky. But it has speed and I love that.
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Old 2007-10-20, 18:16   Link #26
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My favourite is the GuAIZ, deserves more love than to be replaced by a UC rip off. Beam claw in the shield, awesome weapon or most awesome weapon?
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Old 2007-10-20, 18:28   Link #27
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My favourite is the GuAIZ, deserves more love than to be replaced by a UC rip off. Beam claw in the shield, awesome weapon or most awesome weapon?
I agree. I never understood why they simply replace the GuAIZ (specifically the GuAIZ R) with the ZAKU. It was far better than the base ZAKU.
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Old 2007-10-20, 19:11   Link #28
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GuAIZ was definitely amazing.
And yeah, it did seem like ZAFT got some serious downgrades in Destiny, at least in cool factor.

Sad they had to rip everything from UC.

Anyways, I'm glad 00 has some fresh grunt designs. Loving that Tieren.
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Old 2007-10-20, 22:26   Link #29
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Sad they had to rip everything from UC.
Well, the creators made it no secret when pointing out that SEED & DESTINY were meant to retell the Gundam story in the 21st century. Beside some mechanical design similarities, you find very little parallel in characters, except perhaps that whole thing with Stella.

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Anyways, I'm glad 00 has some fresh grunt designs. Loving that Tieren.
Not so fresh if you are into Front Mission. The Tieren resemble some of the Wanzers used in the game. However, 00 does a good job in making the distinction between 'Grunts' and 'Gundams' by introducing the Tieren and/or Union Flag.

On the other hand, it would appear that the only fresh mecha designs I have witnessed recently on any media would be ones found in Xenosaga. Especially episodes II & III.

Those were beautiful.

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Old 2007-10-20, 22:48   Link #30
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Not so fresh if you are into Front Mission. The Tieren resemble some of the Wanzers used in the game. However, 00 does a good job in making the distinction between 'Grunts' and 'Gundams' by introducing the Tieren and/or Union Flag.

On the other hand, it would appear that the only fresh mecha designs I have witnessed recently on any media would be ones found in Xenosaga. Especially episodes II & III.

Those were beautiful.

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Don't know about Xenosaga, but Gurren Lagann really had fresh mech design imo. Out of all the grunt in CE universe, I would choose Zaku, since well they are Zaku.
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Old 2007-10-20, 23:02   Link #31
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I love ZuOTT.
It's so badass, Bandai refused outright, to make a plamodel kit for it.

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Old 2007-10-21, 02:11   Link #32
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On the other hand, it would appear that the only fresh mecha designs I have witnessed recently on any media would be ones found in Xenosaga. Especially episodes II & III.

Those were beautiful.

- Tak
I take it you've never heard of Zone of the Enders and its sequel. Jehuty would like a word with you.

Still, points for mentioning Xenosaga.
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Old 2007-10-21, 02:21   Link #33
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I like the BuCUE's design (aww, it's not in the poll). Talk about leet looking grunts I'm all for the BuCUE's. Especially the TMF/A-802W2 Kerberos BuCUE Hound that appeared on STARGAZER. Man, those units are badass.
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Old 2007-10-21, 02:23   Link #34
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I take it you've never heard of Zone of the Enders and its sequel.
I take it you have no idea what a big fan I am of ZoE and Anubis. Hell, I would like to have a word with you, in private.

Now that I think about it, the mecha designs in both ZoE and Xenosaga were pretty similiar. But why Xenosaga? Because Kos-Mos was in it!

- Tak (and when they are done with MSG4, they better consider ZoE 3)

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Old 2007-10-21, 02:42   Link #35
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Old 2007-10-21, 04:36   Link #36
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My favourite is the GuAIZ, deserves more love than to be replaced by a UC rip off. Beam claw in the shield, awesome weapon or most awesome weapon?
IAWTP. The GuAIZ was just purely awesome and it was also Rau's suit for the whole series except for the last 3 eps. But nonetheless I'd go for the GuAIZ than the Zaku in Destiny.
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Old 2007-10-21, 04:45   Link #37
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IAWTP. The GuAIZ was just purely awesome and it was also Rau's suit for the whole series except for the last 3 eps.
Actually, Rau used the CGUE and the DINN before he used the GuAIZ. IIRC, in the series, he used all four different ms (including Providence) on one occasion each.
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Old 2007-10-21, 04:51   Link #38
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Actually, Rau used the CGUE and the DINN before he used the GuAIZ. IIRC, in the series, he used all four different ms (including Providence) on one occasion each.
Thanks for the correction. ^_^ My memory just sucks, but reading that reminds me how Rau managed the endure the majority of the series being in grunt suits. lol
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Old 2007-10-22, 22:19   Link #39
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Heck! Still cannot believe Zaku is lagging behind the Murasame!

And to think two particular ZAKUs held off waves after waves of Rank A Gundam attacks. *Sigh* Their efforts wasted *Sniff*.

And the M1 Astray, which probably shot down more Daggers than the other way around, is currently lagging behind the Dagger by 50% of the vote.

Logic, who needs em.

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Old 2007-10-22, 22:57   Link #40
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I like Zaku warrior because of the variation of medical transporter XD
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