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Old 2007-11-15, 18:43   Link #321
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Does the liscence also cover higurashi kai? It's not illegal to download higurashi kai is it?
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Old 2008-06-21, 09:39   Link #322
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Oh the tragedy! Oh the horror!

Thanks to my lack of fast (and stable) internet, I am unable to check to see if this has been posted. So, for those of you who may or may not have heard:

Spoiler for This is extremely bad news.:


The good news is, another company has taken up the dub, and they will resume releasing it in America. I am not sure if they will release Kai or not, but that's what I've heard.

If, by the chance I am wrong, I apologize for giving you all false hope. *bows*
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Old 2008-06-21, 18:31   Link #323
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Thanks to my lack of fast (and stable) internet, I am unable to check to see if this has been posted. So, for those of you who may or may not have heard:



The good news is, another company has taken up the dub, and they will resume releasing it in America. I am not sure if they will release Kai or not, but that's what I've heard.

If, by the chance I am wrong, I apologize for giving you all false hope. *bows*
Umm, everyone knew about that awhile ago... besides, the dub was HORRIBLE, so it's good news! Geneon deserved it!
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Old 2008-06-22, 00:14   Link #324
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The good news is, another company has taken up the dub, and they will resume releasing it in America....
Huh? Whats this about another company picking up the series? I don't think this has happened yet sadly.
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Old 2008-06-22, 01:30   Link #325
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Agreed. Show proof that another company has heeded the call or it didn't happen.



BTW, how much would you (as in anyone) estimate it would cost to legally produce a quality (voice actors, translation, high quality video, etc) dubbed version of an anime like Higurashi, you know, independently?
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Old 2008-06-22, 07:53   Link #326
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if this be true, i will praise the company
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Old 2008-06-22, 12:58   Link #327
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Agreed. Show proof that another company has heeded the call or it didn't happen.



BTW, how much would you (as in anyone) estimate it would cost to legally produce a quality (voice actors, translation, high quality video, etc) dubbed version of an anime like Higurashi, you know, independently?
You forgot you'd have to pay for the license, that's what makes it legal ^___^. Also, since there are so many fans, they'd probaby be willing to translate/voice over fairly cheap just to be able to do it..... don't know if they'd have any professional experiance though XD. Also, I have been trying to find out how much American companies generally pay for anime title licenses (I'm sure it varies by title), but I haven't found any info....
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Old 2008-06-22, 14:47   Link #328
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So, for those of you who may or may not have heard.
Note that I said that. o.o


I heard the other company taking it up in passing from what seems to be, at the moment, from a very unreliable source. I deeply apologize. I am neither confirming nor denying it, I'm only saying that because in the event that it does happen, you all will know.


Yes, I will not deny the dub is horrible. It is. But, the more widespread that Higurashi is, the higher chance that people will hear how good it is and go out and buy it. Which is what the entire anime/manga business needs right now, seeing as many companies are either out of business, in the process of going out of business, or on the verge where they will go out of business relatively soon. *Note* I am not saying all companies are going out of business, just some. And I'm not saying the ones about to will. They could make a comeback.

The reason is subs and scanslations. Yes, posting a one or two episodes or a chapter or two can be good, seeing as if you refuse to post more, people will want to read more and go out and buy it. That's why scans sites like Spectrum are good, because they sometimes post some of the series.

Now, if you have no money to buy anime/manga, you're just out of luck. But if you have no money, chances are you either have a basic internet that won't load anything (like me) or no internet whatsoever. So you're not helping, but you're not hurting either. If you have a fast internet, at least save some money. Go out, buy a manga book. I've seen them as low as five-dollars (US) in some places. Try Amazon.com. I've seen manga books as low as twelve-cents and anime discs for four-dollars. Both were listed as either new or like new.

Why did Geneon go out of business? Because people sat around and watched subs all day. I'm guilty, I have done so.

Now if you watched the subs then went out and bought the dub, thank you. You're not to blame. You're helping.

The message: go buy anime/manga.

Say what you will about me or this message, but just remember: just like any business, anime can go out too.
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Old 2008-06-22, 16:39   Link #329
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The reason is subs and scanslations.
Actually some companies have said that they like these because they are good publicity. Also, buying an American company's translation of an anime or manga, you just aren't getting the same thing. If a company is doing a good job, by all means go out and by it. But most companies have lousy translations and why would you want to pay for that? It's just not fair. If the companies would step up to the plate and release manga and anime with translations as good as scanlators/fansubbers, they'd have alot more buisness. Also, don't say we hurt the industry. I watch/read anime/manga online all the time but have still purchased and own 200 anime DVDs and VHS, and 480 manga volumes, and I know alot of people who are in the same boat
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Old 2008-06-22, 20:18   Link #330
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Actually some companies have said that they like these because they are good publicity. Also, buying an American company's translation of an anime or manga, you just aren't getting the same thing. If a company is doing a good job, by all means go out and by it. But most companies have lousy translations and why would you want to pay for that? It's just not fair. If the companies would step up to the plate and release manga and anime with translations as good as scanlators/fansubbers, they'd have alot more buisness. Also, don't say we hurt the industry. I watch/read anime/manga online all the time but have still purchased and own 200 anime DVDs and VHS, and 480 manga volumes, and I know alot of people who are in the same boat :p
HOw could you be so sure that fansubbers have the correct translations?
Look at Death Note OP 2, every single fansubber got that wrong until the actual lyrics were revealed on the enlgish dub.
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Old 2008-06-23, 09:33   Link #331
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You forgot you'd have to pay for the license, that's what makes it legal ^___^. Also, since there are so many fans, they'd probaby be willing to translate/voice over fairly cheap just to be able to do it..... don't know if they'd have any professional experiance though XD. Also, I have been trying to find out how much American companies generally pay for anime title licenses (I'm sure it varies by title), but I haven't found any info....
Dubbing is the most expensive part of releasing an anime DVD in the US. Having to pay for the voice actors etc costs quite a bit. Sub-only DVDs would be considerably cheaper to produce, however companies have to include dubs because DVDs without a dub sell extremely poorly despite how vocal the 'subs not dubs' contingent in on the web.

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I heard the other company taking it up in passing from what seems to be, at the moment, from a very unreliable source. I deeply apologize. I am neither confirming nor denying it, I'm only saying that because in the event that it does happen, you all will know.
Geneon USA hasn't shut down, it has merely closed its anime distribution department. ADV had agreed to buy all its titles however that deal fell through at the last minute and nothing has been heard about them being licensed since. Higurashi, and the other titles in question such as Nanoha, had a pretty limited target audience to begin with, so considering the state of the anime industry in the US I don't think that they'll ever get picked up.
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Old 2008-06-23, 09:41   Link #332
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Dubbing is the most expensive part of releasing an anime DVD in the US. Having to pay for the voice actors etc costs quite a bit. Sub-only DVDs would be considerably cheaper to produce, however companies have to include dubs because DVDs without a dub sell extremely poorly despite how vocal the 'subs not dubs' contingent in on the web.


Geneon USA hasn't shut down, it has merely closed its anime distribution department. ADV had agreed to buy all its titles however that deal fell through at the last minute and nothing has been heard about them being licensed since. Higurashi, and the other titles in question such as Nanoha, had a pretty limited target audience to begin with, so considering the state of the anime industry in the US I don't think that they'll ever get picked up.
Opening the door for independent comapanies to spring up and take the call. The only problem is finding quality voice actors, digging up good up-and-coming voice actors, and widespread distribution (but that COULD be mitigated by simply selling the dubbed versions online only, instead of through real-world stores).
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Old 2008-06-23, 17:58   Link #333
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Higurashi, and the other titles in question such as Nanoha, had a pretty limited target audience to begin with, so considering the state of the anime industry in the US I don't think that they'll ever get picked up.
I remember hearing Nanoha and A's have been picked up. I could be making stuff up, though.
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Old 2008-06-23, 18:15   Link #334
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HOw could you be so sure that fansubbers have the correct translations?
Look at Death Note OP 2, every single fansubber got that wrong until the actual lyrics were revealed on the enlgish dub.
Yeah but that's only one example. There are countless examples of companys messing things up, like renaming titles that are already in english. For example, Firecracker is Meloncholy by Arina Tanemura was changed to Short-Tempered Meloncholic. Not to mention japanese titles, that get changed. Like how Shingetsutan Tsukihime got changed to "Lunar Legand Tsukihime" and they called them "dead apostles" and "true ansestors" instead of Shinso and Shinto.
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Old 2008-07-03, 13:30   Link #337
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But what does this mean, exactly? Are they just going to release the DVDs Geneon made, or are they completely redoing it?
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Old 2008-07-03, 15:09   Link #338
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I think they'll probably pick it up and finish dubbing the rest of the DVD's.

They may redo it, but I doubt it xD
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Old 2008-07-03, 15:26   Link #339
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Old 2008-07-03, 16:23   Link #340
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All the DVDs are already dubbed. I wish they'd make them better.@_@
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