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Old 2003-11-13, 08:35   Link #101
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but, a 'clan' ==family, there is NO difference...
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Old 2003-11-13, 12:09   Link #102
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first off...Vicious, why do you assume that Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya? Jiraiya would just summon his frog and sit on him.

Also, where in the eps did it say that Itachi was stronger than Oro? i seem to recall it being implied but that just may have been b/c of what people stated on the forum.
Well, I'll edit my post. I wanted to say that "... Itachi would be though for Jiraiya". That's true. Anyways, the strongest of the Sannin before getting armless is indeed Oro. Different from Jiraiya and Tsunade, he has a new body, and much more jutsu than them.

BTW, Moon-san, you know why Oro said Itachi is stronger than him, and this also has been discussed many times, so I don't have to say again
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Old 2003-11-13, 12:40   Link #103
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technically the San-nin are equal with each other.. seeing as how one trumps the other
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Old 2003-11-13, 13:52   Link #104
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but, a 'clan' ==family, there is NO difference...
lol there is a udge difference, people in the same clan aren't all in the same familly, in Naruto a clan is a group of people having a specialized jutsu.

It's like Duncan mcLeod of the clan McLeod
McLeod is the last name of anyone in the clan not just of one family.
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Old 2003-11-13, 16:22   Link #105
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but, a 'clan' ==family, there is NO difference...
Yes there IS a difference. A clan is a group of extended family members who usually identify themselves with each other and with a common ancestor. In the Naruto world, these clans usually tend to have special jutsus and/or bloodlines e.g. Uchiha, Hyuga. A family, as we use the term, refers to the nuclear family, father, mother, kids. In the case of such people as Sasuke, he belongs to both his own little Uchiha family (father, mother, Itachi) and the larger unit of the Uchiha clan.

My point here (once again) is that the fact a character has a surname means that there probably is/was a family with that name, but not necessarily a clan. Therefore, Haruno Sakura, for example, belongs to the Haruno family but this does not mean that there is a Haruno clan by all means. There could be, but we cannot just assume it from the fact that she has a surname. How did this all start anyway?

Edit: I didn't notice hunter posted before me. Btw, Duncan Mcleod is teh sexiest!
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Old 2003-11-14, 02:05   Link #106
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Well, I'll edit my post. I wanted to say that "... Itachi would be though for Jiraiya". That's true. Anyways, the strongest of the Sannin before getting armless is indeed Oro. Different from Jiraiya and Tsunade, he has a new body, and much more jutsu than them.

BTW, Moon-san, you know why Oro said Itachi is stronger than him, and this also has been discussed many times, so I don't have to say again
Uhmmm, I actually forgot why, I only recall reading it in the manga. But if I'm wrong PLEASE correct me.
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Old 2003-11-14, 09:50   Link #107
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Uhmmm, I actually forgot why, I only recall reading it in the manga. But if I'm wrong PLEASE correct me.
You're not wrong, Oro said it in the manga.
But the point of Vicious is that for Oro, the best Ninja is the man who has the most jutsu, that's why Oro think that Itachi with his Sharingan is stronger than him.

Personally I don't think so, I think that Oro as a Ninjutsu specialist must be weaker than a true master of the sharingan who can understand/counter/copy all his jutsu.
Without speaking of the mange sharingan.

More seriously the reason of oro saying that Itachi is stronger than him was to introduce the character in the storyline

It was to put the reader in a state of mind : WTF?!?! STRONGER THAN ORO THE BADASS??? OH DUDE THIS ITACHI MUST BE THE ABSOLUTE BADDAS!!!!!



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