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cheez · 2004-03-15, 17:42

I've downloaded all 26 eps of this, but before I start watching I was wondering if anybody knew how, if at all, the anime figures in with the game series. I didn't play either of the two previous Star Ocean games, but after reading some previews and downloading a trailer, I'm eagerly awaiting Star Ocean: Till the End of Time for PS2. I'm just worried that watching the full anime series might spoil me for what's coming in the game.

So, uh... any Star Ocean gurus want to explain how exactly the anime relates with the gaming franchise, or at least point me in the direction of a helpful website?

dreamless · 2004-03-15, 18:16

I like the game far better... but then it's mainly because of the gameplay...

The anime is so-so, it fixed some awkward plot events in the game, but it also brought in some new awkward plot events. Also it's far more light-hearted than the game, which is a minus for me. Another major downside of the anime is that it's incomplete, it basically covers only the first half of the game, and ended rather abruptly.

If you are a Star Ocean 2 fan like me, you may want to watch the anime simply to see an anime version Dias Flac and Firebird Shockwave

But if you never played the games, it's just an average series with just enough comedy to keep it going I guess...

I'd say get the Star Ocean 2 game for sure, it's my favorite PSX game and among the top 10 all-time best RPG for me

zalas · 2004-03-15, 20:52

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Originally Posted by cheez

So, uh... any Star Ocean gurus want to explain how exactly the anime relates with the gaming franchise, or at least point me in the direction of a helpful website?

The anime basically covers the 1st disc of Star Ocean 2.

cheez · 2004-03-15, 21:30

Ah, excellent. Guess I can watch it with no reservations then =D. Hell, maybe I'll even decide to grab SO2 after I watch it, if it's good.

Iron Monkey · 2004-03-15, 22:43

Well, IMO, the anime would have been better if Claude didn't have such an annoying voice. And him doing the same basic moves every single time he fights gets old real quick. That and they got lazy with the animation at times. Still, it follows the game quite closely, if I remember correctly. (it's been over a year since I've seen the anime, and over 3 since I played the game). One final knock on it is, as mentioned, it cuts off quite abruptly. It basically ends after the first disc of the game ends.

Kyuven · 2004-03-16, 01:17

they reeeeeeally over glorified Air Slash...at the equivalant points, when Claude was blowing away stuff with air slash, in the game i was splitting heads with Head Splitter

Tommy · 2004-03-16, 03:17

So everyone says the second one is really great but what about the first one? Do the storys connect with the first and second games? I've never played any of the star oceans and Star Ocean 3 will probably be my first one when it comes out. Should I play them in order?

Kamui4356 · 2004-03-16, 03:27

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Originally Posted by Tommy

So everyone says the second one is really great but what about the first one? Do the storys connect with the first and second games? I've never played any of the star oceans and Star Ocean 3 will probably be my first one when it comes out. Should I play them in order?

star ocean 1 wasn't released in the US as far as I know. As for playing them in order, I don't think it's necessary. You still might want to check out 2 first, since it'll probably be a while before 3 actually comes out.

dreamless · 2004-03-16, 05:44

one of the two main character intros for Star Ocean 2 briefly summarizes the events happened in the original Star Ocean, and covered all that is relevant to SO2, so you don't need to play SO1 before SO2. Nonetheless SO1 is a great SNES game so you may want to play it if you can get it.

cercia_highelf · 2004-03-16, 06:04

HI

Basically the anime series sticks so closely to the game (second story) that fans are getting bored with it! It ties in with all the comics, too...anyone for Leon-chan the amazing cat genius?

AG3 · 2004-03-16, 09:12

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Originally Posted by Kyuven

they reeeeeeally over glorified Air Slash...at the equivalant points, when Claude was blowing away stuff with air slash, in the game i was splitting heads with Head Splitter

Yeah, Head Splitter is nice. Except for the fact that most enemies won't stand still long enough for you to actually hit them with it (selfish bastards

). I prefer Mirror Slash. Or was it Mirror Strike? Mirage Strike? I think I need to play the game again...

The main weakness I remember from Star Ocean 2 was the incredibly short endings, just a few spoken lines from each character's epilogue, even Claude's and Rena's. It just felt so rushed.

dreamless · 2004-03-16, 10:14

well... Claude's Air Slash is lame, but Dias' Air Slash totally ROCKS!

Mirror Slice is so-so, Ripper Blast and Dargon Howl all the way

SilverLeafTree · 2004-03-16, 10:37

Near end-game when every attack did 9999, all the enemies were too fast to be hit by mirror slash (sp?) and headsplitter only hit once, so I used the skill that kicked up lots of pieces of earth at the enemy that hit a few times and was plenty fast...

Village Idiot · 2004-03-16, 12:08

The anime version of SO2 follows Disk 1 faithfully until the Lacour Tournament of Arms, when it starts going into it's own thing(and when it starts going downhill very, very fast).

However, the anime ends in Disk 1, and Disk 2 was never animated, but it was released in drama cds.

But the anime is really bad when compared to the game, and especially the manga (the manga follows the game more faithfully). Plus, Rena isn't so friggin useless in the anime (she knows how to kick ass in the manga), Claude doesn't use the same move over and over again, and Ashton isn't so useless without his Dragons.

Mellow · 2004-03-17, 02:08

Opera isn't in it..T_________________T

The anime like everyone says is OK...and it ridiculously follows the storyline of the game so anyone thats played either will end up knowing the plot easily.

Ashton = pwnt

AG3 · 2004-03-17, 02:16

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Originally Posted by Mellow

Opera isn't in it..T_________________T

Heh? Opera is in both the game and the anime, though she's not a permanent member of the team for most parts of the anime.

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Or are you talking about the manga? I've only seen the first few chapters scanlated, so I wouldn't know about that one.

As for Ashton, I didn't even use him the first time I played the game. It wasn't until after I'd seen the anime that I felt something was missing without him on the team.

Village Idiot · 2004-03-17, 02:31

Ashton = The Pwnage, especially in the manga

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dreamless · 2004-03-17, 03:31

the anime buthered many characters, it severely chibified Rena (she's supposed to be 17... but appears more like under 12 in the anime), made even more a fool out of Ashton (he doesn't even know how to fight in the anime, and everytime needs to get possessed by the dragon to fight his enemies...), and Dias and Claude gets all friendly all too soon...

takuan · 2004-03-17, 16:27

I think Star Ocean EX would be pretty crappy as a stand alone anime. The characters are mashed into these anime stereotypes and the plot is a bit canned. And even as an addition to the game, it's not all that great. As someone mentioned above, they mess around with the character personalities, changing them for the worse in my opinion. I think you'd be better off playing the game first, and then if you really want or you're really bored, you could pick up the anime. The game at least has the saving grace of being fun to play.

Mellow · 2004-03-17, 19:50

Hmm...maybe I might have missed her..>_>

I haven't watched it in a long time so I might have forgotten alot of things.

2004-03-15, 17:42	Link #1
cheez duh? Join Date: Feb 2004	Star Ocean EX - anime vs game series I've downloaded all 26 eps of this, but before I start watching I was wondering if anybody knew how, if at all, the anime figures in with the game series. I didn't play either of the two previous Star Ocean games, but after reading some previews and downloading a trailer, I'm eagerly awaiting Star Ocean: Till the End of Time for PS2. I'm just worried that watching the full anime series might spoil me for what's coming in the game. So, uh... any Star Ocean gurus want to explain how exactly the anime relates with the gaming franchise, or at least point me in the direction of a helpful website?

2004-03-16, 06:04	Link #10
cercia_highelf Virtue Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Age: 45	So HI Basically the anime series sticks so closely to the game (second story) that fans are getting bored with it! It ties in with all the comics, too...anyone for Leon-chan the amazing cat genius?

2004-03-17, 02:31	Link #17
Village Idiot Fate/ Stay Night Join Date: Jun 2003	Ashton = The Pwnage, especially in the manga He Spoiler: ends up fighting with one arm to protect the others on the Continent of El

2004-03-17, 16:27	Link #19
takuan Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: back of the fridge, next to the hot sauce	just my 2 cents I think Star Ocean EX would be pretty crappy as a stand alone anime. The characters are mashed into these anime stereotypes and the plot is a bit canned. And even as an addition to the game, it's not all that great. As someone mentioned above, they mess around with the character personalities, changing them for the worse in my opinion. I think you'd be better off playing the game first, and then if you really want or you're really bored, you could pick up the anime. The game at least has the saving grace of being fun to play.

2004-03-15, 18:16	Link #2
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	I like the game far better... but then it's mainly because of the gameplay... The anime is so-so, it fixed some awkward plot events in the game, but it also brought in some new awkward plot events. Also it's far more light-hearted than the game, which is a minus for me. Another major downside of the anime is that it's incomplete, it basically covers only the first half of the game, and ended rather abruptly. If you are a Star Ocean 2 fan like me, you may want to watch the anime simply to see an anime version Dias Flac and Firebird Shockwave But if you never played the games, it's just an average series with just enough comedy to keep it going I guess... I'd say get the Star Ocean 2 game for sure, it's my favorite PSX game and among the top 10 all-time best RPG for me

2004-03-15, 21:30	Link #4
cheez duh? Join Date: Feb 2004	Ah, excellent. Guess I can watch it with no reservations then =D. Hell, maybe I'll even decide to grab SO2 after I watch it, if it's good.

2004-03-15, 22:43	Link #5
Iron Monkey Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003	Well, IMO, the anime would have been better if Claude didn't have such an annoying voice. And him doing the same basic moves every single time he fights gets old real quick. That and they got lazy with the animation at times. Still, it follows the game quite closely, if I remember correctly. (it's been over a year since I've seen the anime, and over 3 since I played the game). One final knock on it is, as mentioned, it cuts off quite abruptly. It basically ends after the first disc of the game ends.

2004-03-16, 01:17	Link #6
Kyuven Bishoujo Goodness Galore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Stuck Between Reality and Fantasy	they reeeeeeally over glorified Air Slash...at the equivalant points, when Claude was blowing away stuff with air slash, in the game i was splitting heads with Head Splitter

2004-03-16, 03:17	Link #7
Tommy Mr. Prince Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 40	So everyone says the second one is really great but what about the first one? Do the storys connect with the first and second games? I've never played any of the star oceans and Star Ocean 3 will probably be my first one when it comes out. Should I play them in order?

2004-03-16, 05:44	Link #9
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	one of the two main character intros for Star Ocean 2 briefly summarizes the events happened in the original Star Ocean, and covered all that is relevant to SO2, so you don't need to play SO1 before SO2. Nonetheless SO1 is a great SNES game so you may want to play it if you can get it.

2004-03-16, 10:14	Link #12
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	well... Claude's Air Slash is lame, but Dias' Air Slash totally ROCKS! Mirror Slice is so-so, Ripper Blast and Dargon Howl all the way

2004-03-16, 10:37	Link #13
SilverLeafTree UnLeet Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 36	Near end-game when every attack did 9999, all the enemies were too fast to be hit by mirror slash (sp?) and headsplitter only hit once, so I used the skill that kicked up lots of pieces of earth at the enemy that hit a few times and was plenty fast...

2004-03-16, 12:08	Link #14
Village Idiot Fate/ Stay Night Join Date: Jun 2003	The anime version of SO2 follows Disk 1 faithfully until the Lacour Tournament of Arms, when it starts going into it's own thing(and when it starts going downhill very, very fast). However, the anime ends in Disk 1, and Disk 2 was never animated, but it was released in drama cds. But the anime is really bad when compared to the game, and especially the manga (the manga follows the game more faithfully). Plus, Rena isn't so friggin useless in the anime (she knows how to kick ass in the manga), Claude doesn't use the same move over and over again, and Ashton isn't so useless without his Dragons.

2004-03-17, 02:08	Link #15
Mellow Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004	Opera isn't in it..T_________________T The anime like everyone says is OK...and it ridiculously follows the storyline of the game so anyone thats played either will end up knowing the plot easily. Ashton = pwnt

2004-03-17, 03:31	Link #18
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	the anime buthered many characters, it severely chibified Rena (she's supposed to be 17... but appears more like under 12 in the anime), made even more a fool out of Ashton (he doesn't even know how to fight in the anime, and everytime needs to get possessed by the dragon to fight his enemies...), and Dias and Claude gets all friendly all too soon...

2004-03-17, 19:50	Link #20
Mellow Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004	Hmm...maybe I might have missed her..>_> I haven't watched it in a long time so I might have forgotten alot of things.